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Red Cross 在西藏问题上有撒谎!不要脸!


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#1 jake

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发表于 2008-07-15 20:25

周末在网上无意看到瑞典的red cross最近做的一些ad campaign(看下面这些连接)。

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I realised immediately that the police in these pictures were Nepalese not Chinese. However the concept of these campaigns were obviously and directly pointing at China's policy in Tibet and the upcoming Beijing Olympics! I was furious and decided to get in touch with the Red Cross Sweden and find out what the heck was going through these imbeciles' heads!

This is the email i sent to them initially:

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Dear sir/madam,

I'd like to point out that, your latest campaigns that feature the images of Tibetans being beaten and chased by police lack the basic accuracy and it is very unprofessional and embarrasing for the Red Cross and whatever agency that dealt with this project.

The police wearing blue uniforms are in fact Napalese not Chinese as the ads indicate. I am astonished that such an obvious and almost arrogant error would have happened in a campaign that's launched by such a reputable organisation as the Red Cross... This would have extremely damaged the image of the organisation, dampend the message that you tried to get across to the audience and most important and definitley lost a lot of people's confidence and trust in the Red Cross.

What an embarrasement...


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I initially thought this email would have fallen on deaf ears. But to my surprise, I got a reply from their communication guy this morning:

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Hi,

Thanks for your opinion. The picture is from Tibet. It was taken at an anti-china demonstration outside the Chinese embassy in Lhasa, where the Tibetan police attacked the protestors with riot sticks. 113 Tibetans were arrested, amongst them several monks and nuns. So you are right in that the picture doesn’t show any Chinese policemen. What it shows are the consequences for those who react towards Chinas behavior in Tibet. So sure, you can choose to be angry over how the pictures show the “wrong” perspective. We choose to be angry over Chinas violation on human rights and the consequences they create, even in Chinas neighboring countries. I hope you feel that we have answered your question. In the campaign we also show several pictures taken in China where the Chinese authorities are in focus.

med vänliga hälsningar
Simon Brouwers


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I cannot believe how ignorant and stupid this guy is. It's just incredible and the list of how many things are wrong with that email just goes on and on and on and on and on... so to this email, I replied (oh and I CC'd all the names I could find on Red Cross's website and even the contact person at Red Cross UK, I wanna humiliate everyone of them and tell them what a bunch of idiots and arrogant twats they all have been and looked) :


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Dear Simon

Thanks for your reply and the clarification.

*For everyone else copied in this email. Please see the attached images which are in question and the previous email correspondence for your reference.

May I be honest in saying I am even more concerned that you do not even have the slightest clue in what was happening in those pictures, or indeed what you were saying!! You really work for the Red Cross??

Let me correct the mistakes you made in your reply, if I may:

1. you said "The picture is from Tibet. It was taken at an anti-china demonstration outside the Chinese embassy in Lhasa"

I can assure you that these pictures were taken in Nepal and there is no such a thing as "Chinese Embassy in Lhasa"! These pictures were taken outside the Chinese Embassy in NEPAL, not Lhasa, which explains the presence of Nepalese police. And the action of the Nepalese police is out of the control of the Chinese government. I cannot believe you didn't even know this basic fact and you are claiming to be campaigning for the Tibetan people!

2. you also said "Tibetan police attacked the protestors with riot sticks."

No, wrong again. These police, like I have said were Nepalese. And there isn't such a thing as Tibetan police.

Initially, I thought there was a genuine mistake made in the preparation of this campaign by the Red Cross, so that I emailed to inform you. However, having read your reply, I realised just how little clue you have on the subject you are supposed to be campaigning about. This really saddens me as I am a regular donor to the Red Cross and other charities. Your incompetence and complete lack of knowledge on the matter has resulted in a misleading campaign which doesn't represent the truth and twisted the fact. And because of this I have no choice but to report this issue to other parts of the Red Cross organisation and to inform the Media of this shockingly unprofessional and irresponsible mess up by the Red Cross.

Back to the pictures themselves, they have a huge potential of misleading the public in mistaking the Nepalese police for Chinese, without proper clarification with the campaign, people would no doubt come to an impartial and wrong conclusion.

You are right, that I can choose to be angry over how the pictures show the wrong perspective. However, I am more outraged that you and the Red Cross would launch an campaign on such a crucial and sensitive international matter, when you clearly don't even have the slightest clue or ever bothered to research the basic factual background, misleading the general public and I have completely lost the faith and trust in your organisation and frankly I think you are a sham.

I admire your desire for doing something for a good cause, but please please please, do your research, understand what you are talking about, and educate yourself before educating other people.

Shame on you and the Red Cross.


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After this email, I got another reply later this afternoon:

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Dear Jake,


The information concerning the pictures have been given to us by Scanpix, the picture agency from where we bought the pictures, I pasted the information they gave to us in my reply to you.
I trust that the info they have given to us is correct, but ofcourse i will look it up to be sure. If a mistake has been made somewhere we will make the necessary corrections.

med vänliga hälsningar
Simon Brouwers



Followed by, a few minutes later, this:

Jake,

You were right; the pictures are from Nepal. It was the protestors who were from Tibet. We are using five different pictures, all taken in five different places, in the campaign - and somehow there has been a mix up. I apologize for this. The other information i sent you regarding the picture is correct.This is ofcourse a very unfortunate mistake and we will make sure that it doesn´t happen again.

Enclosed you will find the descriptive text from AP/Scanpix.

“NEPAL-TIBET-CHINA-POLITICS-PROTEST Nepalese policemen use sticks to beat Tibetan protesters during an anti-Chinese demonstration in front of the consular section of the Chinese Embassy in Kathmandu on March 30, 2008. Some 113 Tibetans protesters including several monks and nuns were detained after demonstrating in front of the building in the Nepalese capital, police and eyewitnesses said. AFP PHOTO/Prakash MATHEMA”

Kind regards
Simon Brouwers


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To above, I replied this:

Simon

I appreciate your reply. I think you would also agree that using these pictures in a campaign that is directly pointing at the Olympics in Beijing and CHINA's policy in Tibet is obviously very misleading. I think people should expect more from a reputable charity organisation such as the Red Cross. And when the Red Cross makes mistake, as it clearly has on this occasion, one should also expect a proper action to be taken to correct the mistake and try to repair the damage it had already caused. I am looking forward to hearing what the Red Cross plans to do regarding this.

Regards,


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I will keep you guys updated if I hear back from them. I just felt that I have the responsibility of letting you guys know about this.

Jake

#2 Mankers

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发表于 2008-07-15 20:56

I have to say you are a professional complainer!

very well done indeed!

Red Cross is now Red-Faced-X

本篇文章已被 Mankers 于 2008-07-15 20:56 编辑过

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#3 jake

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发表于 2008-07-15 21:35

引用(Mankers @ 15 Jul 2008, 21:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to say you are a professional complainer!

very well done indeed!

Red Cross is now Red-Faced-X


Hehe, thanks.

These f***heads need to be put in their places.

#4 yi

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发表于 2008-07-16 01:52

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发表于 2008-07-16 07:52

you're the champion, jake. thumbup.gif king.gif

#6 星闪烁

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发表于 2008-07-16 09:51

给jake个well done sticker! thumbup.gif
用心去听,再听,听下去!你听到了什么?


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发表于 2008-07-16 10:29

jake, you are hero!
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#8 Minimini

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发表于 2008-07-16 10:49

Well done!

P. S Your writing is superb!

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发表于 2008-07-16 11:00

you are brilliant, Jake!

we are so proud of you!!

thanks!

#10 jake

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发表于 2008-07-16 11:28

Thanks guys for the support. Simon replied again, and here's the correspondence this morning:

From the Red Cross
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Dear Jake,


To clarify; the mistake was made when we told you the picture were from Tibet when it infact was from Nepal. We will continue to use the picture in our campaign, among with several others taken in China.
And I repeat, the campaign is not anti-china, its pro-human rights.

Kind Regards,
Simon Brouwers


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To which I replied:

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Simon,

The fact that you made that embarrassing and fundamental mistake tells me just how little credibility that this whole campaign has. It might as well just be scrapped. And just because you keep saying that this is not anti-China, it doesn’t take away the fact that this campaign is directly associated with Beijing’s Olympics and China’s policy in Tibet. No matter what your explanation, this is clearly an Anti-China campaign.

It doe not surprise me that the Red Cross would admit this embarrassing error, and doesn’t plan to do anything that would give out the message that they are in the wrong. Where’s your conscience now and where’s the responsibility?

Since you are so big on the Human Rights, what about the rights of over 1 billion Chinese people to finally enjoy their well deserved international recognition after decades of being oppressed, invaded by the very West that is now taking the moral high-ground (how ironic); what about their rights to enjoy the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to show the world their hospitality, to show the world a REAL China and its culture? People in China are opening their arms and getting ready to welcome people from all over the world, yet the Red Cross decided to hi-jack the event and spread its own propaganda and political agenda, which may I remind you, are based on impartial perspectives and most outrageously, incorrect basic information on the matter!

You and the Red Cross should be ashamed. The hypocrisy is overwhelming!


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发表于 2008-07-16 11:56

great job, jake.

did this simon guy send you any pictures of the 'several others taken in China'? i wonder what they look like?

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发表于 2008-07-16 12:01

SUPER!

JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY SOMEHOW CAN MAKE THIS TO REACH MORE PUBLIC READERS.
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发表于 2008-07-16 12:21

引用(nonothing @ 16 Jul 2008, 12:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
great job, jake.

did this simon guy send you any pictures of the 'several others taken in China'? i wonder what they look like?


Found them here.

To me this one below looks like being taken at a training ground. The man's facial expression does not show he's in a struggle, but more like practicing martial art skills with his team mate. Looking at his haircut and clothes, I'm very much convinced he's a police/army trainee of some kind.


This one is simply a scene of acting. The amateur actor's (second on the left) awkward smile is revealing enough.

...and you run, 'coz life is too short...


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发表于 2008-07-16 12:31

add to 撞月's comments, it seems nothing to do with tibet anyway.

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发表于 2008-07-16 12:32

Good job, Jack!
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