不知道在英国有没有同胞是做电视工作的，进来报个名，大家交个朋友。

看到你们的短信了。其实我算不上电视工作者，沾点边罢了。说说你们在哪个城市？现在在媒体公司工作吗？我在basingstoke.

我不是做电视的，但我在国内也是从事媒体的，在报纸工作。

在英国做媒体英语必须过硬。我就是因为语言还不好，只能做技术方面的工作，都觉得很吃力呢。wenyan夫妇是在bbc吗？很想知道有没有留学生留在bbc工作的。我去过bbc white city的大楼，管理，机房布局很先进。

我看电视的时候总在想，什么时候电视上出现中国人主播，就是华人在英国站稳脚跟的时候了。现在的主播基本限于白人和黑人，印巴人凤毛麟角。

我们在伦敦。

是呀，在英国做媒体英语必须过硬。不过很遗憾我们只是刚来不久，不过原来在国内的时候跟BBC倒是有一些合作，他们严谨的工作作风值得学习。
华人好像在英国的媒体圈子不成什么气候。

报纸也是媒体呀，来英国还做这行吗？

just to say hi. I mainly work on Radio now, but do like to get my hands in various projects.

Right now I am helping a team of TV professionals to set up a new TV station which will cater for the needs of the international communities in the UK, including afro-caribbean, South Asian, Chinese and other eastern communities.

It will be a 24/7 operation, so they are looking to fill all kind of posts including presenters, researchers, reporters, script-writers, camera crew, techinical staff, editors, art direction, sales agents, community co-ordinators etc.

If you would like to get involve in the project either as staff or volunteers or for work experience, please email (with your CV preferably) to james.wong@kstudio.org.uk.

Please DO NOT EMAIL ME. Thanks.

英國第一個針對國際社群的電視台即將成立，如果你有興趣加入，擔任主持、編採、製作、拍攝、技術、美術、市場或廣告之全職、兼職或義務或實習之工作，請將履歷寄往 james.wong@kstudio.org.uk. 謝謝。

請勿寄電郵給我
thx

there are chinese in BBC TV but mostly behind the camera. I think it just a matter of time before we see more chinese on the mainstream. it is a process, it take time....

当然，什么事情都是需要时间的。其实幕后跟幕前没什么，主要是占有率的问题。台长跟中高层领导都是华人就可以了，主持人还是让外国人去做吧。

大家好，我在富卓出版公司(future publishing)做线上编辑兼freelance writer/designer。来报个到。其实我很想进入和从事main stream media， like radio/tv。机会太少了。寄过cv和demo dvd到很多电视台，象itv, channel 4, sky, bbc，都在面试后不了了之了。cnn也才offer我internship，permanent position is out of question。另外因为国内上的国际学校的老师都是美国的，所以我的英文有很重的美国口音，根深蒂固，改不了了。来了英国7年了，还是那样。所以这对我在英国的main stream media的发展也是个绊脚石。

其实，英国毕竟不是一个移民国家，和美国相比，在美国的华裔tv presenter, news anchor或是actors都数不胜数。不管你操什么口音，是什么种族或者肤色，只要you are good at what you do, you are a good journalist, then you are hired. 英国还需要很长一段时间才能赶上。

joseph, i am really interested in this project and participating in its development. It's about time for the UK to have its own TV channel for its more and more diversified international community. I will get in touch with James.

Thanks

good luck. it is hard to set something up like this, have to get support from a wide range of people, esp advertsiers haha.

I understand the frustration, but i would like to add a different perspective:

1. we need to recognise that the media is very competitive. even if you are a local white person, it is hard to get in. We recently posted a position for a freelance production assistant, and received over 100 applications in one day. There are just so many talents out there fight for a very limited number of opening.

2. To be a DJ for example, many local english youth would first do voluntery work for hospital radio, then apply to be a runner in a local radio, then wait for his chance, but if he/she is any good he will eventually get there, but there is no getting away from taking a lot less than your peer in other industry if you want to break in the industry.

3. One of my friend who is retiring from BBC TV at the end of the year, often tell me how hard it was when he first started. 25 years ago. He was already a well-established producer from RTHK when he arrived, but when hecme to the BBC, the first thing he has to do is to make coffee for his boss.

4. I have heard this kind of stories far too often. my reading into this is,media rely on team work. It is NOT enough you are good at what you do, you need to be good at what you do in "a team enviornment", giving support to your team, etc. It is very hard to tell how you would fit in a team just by reading your CV, or doing an interview, and no one will pay for someone just to test out his/her suitablity. hiring the wrong person is a big headache. the process of training someone and then find out they are not suitable is very frustrating. that why most people would NOT give you a permanant job unless you have some experience. And as it it, most people gain their experience throughg un-paid work.

it is a frustrating process, granted, being chinese has some bearing on the situation, but it is hard for someone local too.

good luck

楼主在哪家电视台。

楼主我没来英国的时候是在电视台的，北京台、中央台都做过，现在是刚来，觉得在英国媒体的华人不多，希望大家能团结一下，互通有无，特立此帖。

请问楼上你呢？

Actually, your perspective is quite interesting and it does make a lot of sense.

But don't get me wrong, I totally understand that I would need to start from a lower level and work myself up the ladder, and the job positions I applied with those major tv production companies were all on junior levels, ie runner, researcher, production assistant or video journalist. I never thought that I was fully qualified or have enough experience to take on the job, but I do know that I have the charisma and what it takes to become a successful media personell. Now, this is totally a catch 22 situation, as you'd need experience to get the job, but without an offer or the oppertunity, where can you get the experience from? Volunteering in a hospital is a good way going about it, there's no doubt about that. But, for foreign nationals like us, a full-time job means sooo much more than just a financial security. It just wouldn't be practicle.

It's a tough business, you are absolutely right about that. I just wish there were more openings, more channels (like the US), more oppertunities, and people can be just that little more accepting and openminded.

Thanks for your kind wishes. Any idea when they will start taking applications for any of the positions you mentioned?

看来大部分人都在做周边呀。

楼主这么好的背景在国内多爽，干嘛来英国啊，朋友在央视的上海台的都回去了，他们比较的结果都说国内好，发展空间其实蛮大的
在英国，做和华人有关的还行，纯纯的英国节目能介入的不多吧，像 jake讲的去美国好一些，8过我有见过周末做饭节目有亚洲面孔的阿姨做过菜，其他就很少了，呵呵
BTW，我也在伦敦，现在的工作和jake差不多，不过只是在打工，希望学业完成后也有个比较更深入的工作，事在人为，大家一起努力吧！！

我们做技术的感觉还是在英国更有发展，毕竟在国内限于使用层。我在刻苦练英文，不过开始学英文晚，语言学习能力不强，进展缓慢阿。看大家多是搞创作的，有和我一样做技术的吗？在国内也做过创意和编辑，还拉过广告，卖过设备。干了一圈发现还是喜欢做技术。

也算是能人了，国内大部分编辑或记者即使再没工作也做不了技术的，甚至有一部分编辑记者连编辑机都使不利落。

jake: when you say it is not practical, do you mean it is hard to find time or most people need some mean of financial support to surive??? please explain a bit more. i live in the UK most my life, i can be a bit ignorant

in the meantime i can give you a few more example, a friend of mine want to be an actor, he is now in a westend show. but to get in the industry he work as a sale executive on my station, and he suplement his income by working as a waiter. he is 100% white. took him 5 years after unit before he finally get his first westend part.

It is not the best systems, but i have seen many cases of people making success through their Perseverance. They might not be the most talented. but because they stick at it and eventually all their competitor left the field and they end up taking the dream role. anyway, there are more than one way to make it in this industry. hope you will be the one who bring through the mould

只是想来这边强迫自己把英语学好，有机会的话跟英国的同行学习一下，欧美的电视业还是走在世界前沿的。要是让我放弃在国内电视业十几年的积累，我还是不舍得的。周末的做饭节目我也看过，但我觉的内个亚洲面孔的阿姨是在英语国家长大的，不知道咱们看的是不是同一个节目。

i think it is not just the technical aspect, the media culture of UK is something that is worth experiencing esp coming come China where the media has been servicing the needs of the Party for so long. China is undergoing lot of changes, would be cool be there are more exchanges

btw, the 阿姨, is it nancy lam, the rather "fat" lady? or someone entirely new??

电视是要花大本钱的产业。国内很多制作单位感觉现在是一碗饭分给8个人吃，对节目量的要求远过对节目质量的要求。

“一碗饭分给8个人吃”怎讲？

forgot the name, i watched this program long time ago.

another thing is, bbc is still blocked by chinese gov, somehow, it lost chinese market, at the same time, it makes harder for chinese people to enter this industry...But just like Joe said, things are getting to be changed, we will see...

我是学机械工程的，不知道可不可以在这里发言
我觉得像很多英国的电视节目模式是不是都可以照搬到国内，像是汽车的，家庭装修，招聘的什么的。国内好像现在还比较少相关的节目，央视2台好像有些类似的节目。像这样的节目北京上海台可能应该会有兴趣吧，逐渐形成的阶级应该感兴趣。我看网上说现在很多国内的年轻人自己做节目然后卖给电视台。
英国的广告很好，感觉比国内的强不少。但是国内是不是都是企业说的算，应该也有关系。
英国的电视剧感觉一般，和国内的不相上下。但应该比一黄八套的电视剧强。全都是30集，片尾一堆什么不相关公司机关名称唉。
还有英国好像什么人都有可能向电视发展，不像国内好像祖祖辈辈都是做这个的。
个人浅见，请各位专家指正。

楼上的朋友说的这种照搬节目的事情国内的电视台已经在做了，只是有些节目是国内做不起的，比如bbc很有名的一档汽车节目，国内就没有任何一个电视台可以玩的起的，国内照搬的节目形式都是低成本的节目。拿cctv与bbc来说，cctv每年的花销大概是70亿人民币，而bbc在2005年仅tv licence就征得32.4805亿英镑，这还不算bbc在其他新媒体的收入。至于电视剧这种节目其实是要适应当地的文化的，很多英国人的幽默并不为中国同胞所认可。所以现在看来唯一可取的也就是欧美同行的工作作风和态度了。

有道理。你说的那个节目是top gear吧？那个节目国内一定做不起。昨天晚上那期，我没有看不过朋友告诉我说，他们crash了一辆价值半个million的跑车，还有一辆porsche 4x4。people find that entertaining. if it was at cctv, somebody's gotta get fired.

补充一下，上一次回国，发现很多国内的节目抄袭／学习英国的某些节目的版本。象“交换空间“(邻居互相装饰彼此的房子），“梦想中国“－中国版的pop idol。

对，我说的那个节目是top gear。crash价值半个million的车是这个节目的长项。

请问楼主是北京电视台生活频道的漂亮女主持人吗?好像她就是这个名字啊

楼上的朋友，让你失望了，我不是你说的那个北京电视台生活频道的漂亮女主持人。不过我曾经在那里干过几年。

大家好，我在国内也是做电视编导的，来这里读了传媒，现在正在找工作。其实个人是希望不再是做具体节目层面的，一方面觉得在一个异族的文化环境下基本上很难做出来，另一方面也是因为自己做了比较长时间有点倦了，所以现在更希望往媒体中的发展策划部门去发展。不知道谁有没有这方面的经验。

一年前看过MTV的也是关于汽车的，他们每期找一辆破车来从头到尾装修一番，再给车主一个big surprise，酷毕了 忘了节目名字，不知道这个节目现在还有没有，推荐看看

I found it , which is called as Pimp My Ride

嗨。大家好啊。看到这个帖子简直太激动了。
我在北广毕业的，然后在中央七做了一年编导。那个节目太差了，所以就决定出国学一下，现在我已经master毕业了，在一家电视后期公司工作。只做很基本的助理，因为英语实在太受限制了。但是我想应该很快就有发展的。真是希望能多结识一些同行，可以多多交流！

Hi, good to know you guys, I am a IT & Digital Broadcasting Engineer working at BBC White City...

我的偶像终于出现了。我上次去white city， 主要就在二层的机房转了转。第一次看到bbc的机房，激动阿。回来老公就问，看见中国人了吗？真是遗憾，没有看到中国人在机房或制作间的身影。餐厅吃饭的时候倒是看到3个中国服务生。需要时间，需要时间啊。

我在视频服务器厂家做support engineer，多交流哦。

Hi, thanks for ur comments, but I am not an Icon anyway,hehe.
Mmm.. Video Server.. which company ur working for ... Omneon?..hehe : )

媒体中的发展策划部门，即使在国内也不可能让刚毕业的学生来做这种工作。

请报一下广院哪系哪届的，我们这里已经有两个了。

大家好，对于你们的话题我很感兴趣，我只是个外行人，我只想说一下我所了解的，因为我男朋友是在ＩＴＶ工作的，我把你们所交流的观点大致和他说了一下，他说确实是这样，关键还是语言问题．他们很多的行话或者俚语我们还是听不懂即使你英语非常流利，还有一点是英国人不大喜欢美国口音．美国也是一样，虽然美国是个移民国家，相对英国来说比较开放，但是你只要留意一下，能在电视上亮相做主持人或新闻主播的，基本上都是ＡＢＣ．

关于top gear 这个节目，他说是厂家赞助的，制作组不会花这个钱的．but i havent confirm yet, he just told me like that.

希望能给你们一些参考．

祝大家好运！
　

在国内，栏目组也不会用制作经费买辆车来砸的，肯定都是赞助商提供的，毕竟也是给自己做广告的好时机。但国内的汽车制造商做碰撞试验都很吝啬，就更不会给栏目组提供可以砸的车了。

跟装修房的节目差不多喽。

我有几个朋友都是作媒体的，BBC什末的，下次让他们来这里看看。

系统有问题吗？发了两遍。

小妹现在在学TV & Film production呢。Undergraduate, 就要读Yr 2呢。

BBC是我梦想啊。。

但现在真是不知道从哪里下手。。各位前辈给点建议。。感谢不尽哦。

从申请BBC WORK EXPERIENCE下手，越早申请机会越大。

我想知道BBC除了做中文的中国人以外，有做英文电视节目的中国人吗