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tutu1005
在英华的注册是在2003 年吧,要多多感谢英华的信息和论坛提供的交流机会。同时也想为大家提供自己可以做的一些帮助。
现在 英国某国际出版公司 做人力资源中层管理。 希望可以帮助大家在英国的工作顺利。 可以尽力提供任何关于英国劳工法,劳工关系和其他人力资源问题的咨询。不过各大银行的招聘不是我的强项,可能经历过招聘过程的个人会提供更好的建议。

先贴一个CIPD 和中国人力资源部的新闻。 本人认为 CIPD 的行为十分短见和有背其推崇的原则。

The Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) shunned the chance to provide official human resources (HR) qualifications for China - a move described as "shameful" by leading HR professionals - Personnel Today can reveal.

An approach by the Chinese Ministry of Personnel was turned down because it was judged by the institute to be too expensive.

Senior HR professionals hit out at the decision, saying the CIPD had missed a golden opportunity.

One HR director said: "Clearly, China is going to be an increasingly dominant entity in the global market, and there is a huge opportunity to become involved.

"A progressive institute should be exploring, innovating and reaching out to such opportunities. It is shameful that this hasn't been the mindset. This reminds me of when people said that the internet wouldn't really have much of an impact on recruitment."

Another senior HR source added: "China is the powerhouse economy of the future. I'm afraid this is a missed opportunity to make a real difference in the reach and impact of the CIPD and the profession in general."

China has tens of thousands of personnel workers in the public sector alone, many of whom are said to be ripe for training, qualifications and guidance. The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development forecasted that China's economy would grow by 11.4% this year.

The set-up cost to the CIPD of the deal with the Chinese government is understood to have been about £500,000. This figure was unconfirmed by the institute.

Its annual report revealed that the CIPD's income for 2006-07 was £35.2m, with £29.3m held in reserve to 'cover operating costs'. Outgoing director-general Geoff Armstrong was paid £343,000 last year.

A CIPD spokesman said: "We did look at the possibility of establishing prof­essional standards and qualifications in China, but the proposal was too resource intensive.

"We looked into the resources required against other priorities in the UK and Ireland, and it was not going to work."



If your organisation was offered the chance to boost your reach, your impact and your credibility by forging a deal with a similar organisation in the world's fastest growing economy, wouldn't you just jump at it? Probably. But not if you're the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD).

The institute turned down a golden opportunity to provide official HR qualifications - and thereby define professional standards - in China, because it was apparently "too resource intensive".

Perhaps the CIPD decided it didn't want to break into the £29.3m it has in reserve. However, to many in the profession, this decision looks short-sighted.

It makes any talk about risk-taking, innovation, bravery, and creativity just that - talk.

I agree with the senior HR source that a "progressive institute should be exploring, innovating and reaching out to such opportunities".

Speaking at a Packed Lunch business briefing last week (hosted by RBI Recruitment), the Association of Graduate Recruiters' vice-president Alison Hodgson quoted HR guru Bill Zinke when she said that it was the capability and competence of HR that would create the commercial USP (unique selling proposition) for businesses in the future. She added that HR needed to stop navel-gazing and get on with it.

Perhaps senior HR players can start by challenging the capability, competence - and judgement - of its professional body. Was this decision playing safe, or missing a trick? Justifiable or 'shameful'? You decide.

西西弗
又跳了? Congratulations!
fuyu
半个同行吧!我还在academia修炼中,practical的HR 还没有做过嘞!楼主是我奋斗的目标!崇拜一个先!

请问楼主这是什么时候的新闻啊! 给个出处吧!没有google到呀!
icesea
作为一名CIPD的会员并且工作在learning and development sector, 我不得不承认CIPD 的领导层是极其缺乏国际视野的,尽管它在英国有着极高的声誉并且是所有HR从业者的最高行业组织,但是它在国际上的声誉远不及CIMA 或者ACCA. 强烈建议写信给cipd让它改革。
JENNY311
我是教汉语的老师。听说一些大公司、银行给员工提供汉语课程。我该怎么开拓这个市场呢?给人力资源部门发垃圾邮件行吗?请指教!
calm
?8220;??8220;?,谈崩了吧?CIPD早在三年前就开始和中国人事部谈这个事了,有一阵都谈得挺有戏的了,其中一个memebership director还找到我,问我愿不愿意回中国去帮他们做这个推广如果和人事部全部谈下来,但那时老公在这,就没?#8221;?#8221;,后来也没信了。原来是没谈成。据她给我说的是,CIPD想在中国自己做,但?#8220;时人事部在全国有一个中国自己的资格认证系统,给CIPD提供了好几个推广的OPTIONS。里面有很多的细节问题。我估计是价格没谈拢。
在这很少碰到有人做HR的,我自己现在也不在这行了。希望以后多多交流。
tutu1005
引用(calm @ 17 Dec 2007, 12:37) *
?8220;??8220;?,谈崩了吧?CIPD早在三年前就开始和中国人事部谈这个事了,有一阵都谈得挺有戏的了,其中一个memebership director还找到我,问我愿不愿意回中国去帮他们做这个推广如果和人事部全部谈下来,但那时老公在这,就没?#8221;?#8221;,后来也没信了。原来是没谈成。据她给我说的是,CIPD想在中国自己做,但?#8220;时人事部在全国有一个中国自己的资格认证系统,给CIPD提供了好几个推广的OPTIONS。里面有很多的细节问题。我估计是价格没谈拢。
在这很少碰到有人做HR的,我自己现在也不在这行了。希望以后多多交流。



Great. Were you in HR before? it is petty that they decided not to take the deal on. might be the budget however, it was said there are more reasons behind.

are you in London?
calm
引用(tutu1005 @ 28 Feb 2008, 20:01) *
引用(calm @ 17 Dec 2007, 12:37) *
?8220;??8220;?,谈崩了吧?CIPD早在三年前就开始和中国人事部谈这个事了,有一阵都谈得挺有戏的了,其中一个memebership director还找到我,问我愿不愿意回中国去帮他们做这个推广如果和人事部全部谈下来,但那时老公在这,就没?#8221;?#8221;,后来也没信了。原来是没谈成。据她给我说的是,CIPD想在中国自己做,但?#8220;时人事部在全国有一个中国自己的资格认证系统,给CIPD提供了好几个推广的OPTIONS。里面有很多的细节问题。我估计是价格没谈拢。
在这很少碰到有人做HR的,我自己现在也不在这行了。希望以后多多交流。



Great. Were you in HR before? it is petty that they decided not to take the deal on. might be the budget however, it was said there are more reasons behind.

are you in London?


Yes, I'm in London.
Isa
各位人力资源专业人士,请问选择诺丁汉大学学人力资源说是好还是诺丁汉传特大学的人力资源说是好?
如果不读硕士,直接读CIPD资格怎么样?
我在国内有多年的人力资源工作经验,不知能否在英国继续从事这方面的工作,我不需要WP。
请指教。 smile.gif
tutu1005
学人力资源的,做人力资源的,我们聚聚吧?
Isa
好呀,我在諾丁漢,中部,到哪都方便,5月份要抽一天時間到倫敦中國大使館取新的護照(舊的快過期le),有在倫敦的嗎?
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