完整版本: 过多长时间能够听懂课程?
So, Hola you must LIKE me then.
... as much as u LIKE me. 
| Quote (yoda @ Aug. 22 2002,20:20) |
| Kangyi, the reason why your question has been overlooked is that most people don't think it is a relevant question. What I suggest you do is start reading some real books. Start with the classics, original versions. These books are cheap and educational (more than just linguistically). Dickens, Austen, Bronte sisters, etc are all good readings, or maybe Agatha Christie. These should keep you going for a while. Have a dictionary at hand when you read these. I promise that your English will improve no ends. Remember the Chinese saying: 熟读唐诗三千首， 不会作诗也会吟. Start reading now. |
不知道你花了多长时间读完第一本小说啊，我读了两天，好累好慢阿
嗯，浏览了一下傲慢与偏见，发现这本书比较好读，我现在读的是双城记，好像难得多
| Quote (hola @ Aug. 23 2002,21:36) |
I like people with O blood type - high sense of responsibility and somehow leadership.  |
hi buddy,that's absolute nonsense, I don't believe that
hmm, maybe. I was half kidding, but do believe there is a relationship between your character and your blood type.
| Quote (hola @ Aug. 26 2002,13:56) |
| hmm, maybe. I was half kidding, but do believe there is a relationship between your character and your blood type. |
but I have read an article before which said the relation between blood type and character was completely ungrounded, in fact it was first proposed by a japanese researcher, who got his theory from another famous theory, which was ungrounded too, without any acceptable scientific proof
perhaps you have heard that famous theory, which divides human beings into for groups, such as 多血质，..., and so on,
Well, kangyi, then why i guess u r O? not others?
And i guess channel 5 is B
And i guess channel 5 is B
I am type o as well.
And I decide to start reading a English book from today.
I am gonna the library a little bit late on.
Can anybody give me some advice on the book which is interesting you think.
And I decide to start reading a English book from today.
I am gonna the library a little bit late on.
Can anybody give me some advice on the book which is interesting you think.
fenghuo, are u in UK? I think reading newspapers is enough.
By the way to Channel 5, I am so curious to know if my guess is correct? of course, no need to answer my question if u think it boring.
By the way to Channel 5, I am so curious to know if my guess is correct? of course, no need to answer my question if u think it boring.
| Quote (kangyi @ Aug. 25 2002,03:23) |
| 嗯，浏览了一下傲慢与偏见，发现这本书比较好读，我现在读的是双城记，好像难得多 |
Kangyi, 天气很热，大家的注意力仿佛不在你的原来post上，没关系，让我胡说两句。
傲慢与偏见是经典但是句子结构太老旧，我个人不太中意那时候几个女作家的大作，当时不知多么时髦，现在看也就是坷坷袢袢扭来扭去一个主题。要看老体不如把莎士比亚的14行念熟了到脱口而出，再挑有限的几段他的喜剧悲剧念熟为止。这个底子上，挑你个人喜欢的当代作家来精读。没有“我一定要学会英语”的压力，阅读于是成为乐趣。垃圾杂志，小道消息，对学英文都是好的。报纸后面的填字游戏你能做多少？
我个人的品味非常不上流，只是念完所有的John Grisham, Henry James, Alain De Botton, OK, 还有Agatha Christie, James Patterson的无聊作品。只要是属于抓小偷的类型我全看。
有的杂志也非常好，比如The Economist。
The Ecomicist就不算专业了。都是political economics，真正的economics journal上面全部是数学，也用不了英语。
Anyways, 文笔是好的。
Anyways, 文笔是好的。
| Quote (hola @ Aug. 28 2002,18:09) |
| fenghuo, are u in UK? I think reading newspapers is enough. By the way to Channel 5, I am so curious to know if my guess is correct? of course, no need to answer my question if u think it boring. |
Whoops!...Sorry, I haven't come here for quite a while.
I think my blood type is AB. But I am not sure.
Does this mean anything?
Oh? this time not bingo? So luke and kangyi are reasonable - Blood type theory is absolutely nonsense? Channel 5, would u mind reconfirming your answer? Thanks! I just want to see if i am sharp-eyed.
| Quote (yoda @ Aug. 29 2002,00:35) |
| 还是看一些报纸好。The Ecomicist太专业了。可以看报纸，简单的看小报， 所谓的Tabloids, 例如Sun, Daily Mirror等等，复杂正规的一些吗看Broadsheets, 例如Times, Independent, Daily Telegraph等等。 |
can u tell me web address of those newspapers
Just posted it on a different board... for your interest...
It takes time to improve any skills, especially language skills. There are no easy way out apart from Practice, Practice and Practice some more. I personally believe having guts is important. I was comparing myself with my younger sister抯 progress during the years here in Britain, she抯 4 years younger than I am. There might be a factor of learning advantages when you are younger, but I believe the key lies within the fact that kids have more guts than adults厾Admittedly, her English is better than mine, especially in verbal conversations厾
Old Chinese proverb: 搕he new born calves aren抰 scared of tigers.
Don抰 want to sound like an ancient wisdom teller, but I would like to say the surroundings and willingness are important to improve one抯 skills too. There weren抰 many Chinese here 10 years ago (well, not counting the over 40s, academics sent out by the state to study a PhD or something, like my dad), as a socially hungry teenager, all activities would involve dealing with the locals. We were 揻orced敔to play with the local kids, if you don抰, you will turn out to be a weirdo like me (kidding). Nowadays, I don抰 know about anywhere else, but in London and Oxford alone, I can easily catch people speaking mandarin by taking a stroll around the lively places like Oxford Street. We are all born lazy, if we can find an easier alternative, why bother making a tremendous effort to improve ourselves? 厾I was lucky厾
The meaning of good at a language is your strong ability to understand and communicate with the others厾typically, listening, reading, writing and speaking . The understanding part is the first two categories and the latter two is for you to make the others understand. Make the following your daily routine may help:
News are broadcasted 24/7 via every possible media here in Britain. Everyday, just pick one story, and try to understand it in depth through all four ways stated above.
Reading: pick up a free copy of the Metro (or any other quality newspapers). Find an interesting news article (not the trashy gossips) like the current affair, read it, look up the dictionary for all those new words, not to memorise the new words, just to understand what it means in the context of the article. Then throw the paper away
Speaking: At the lunchtime or the breaks, speak to friends or colleagues (even strangers) of what you抳e read this morning. Forget about the grammar, the key is for the others to understand what the heck you are going on about.
Writing: Send an email to your mum (or someone wouldn抰 be annoyed) everyday in English. It doesn抰 matter if she understand it or not, am sure she will be happy to see your email everyday. Tell her what you抳e read in the paper today. When you are writing the email, pay more attention to your grammars and try to bring in the new words you抳e learned for the day.
Listening: Leave the radio on, I recommend Radio 4, proper English pronunciation and the news are on every hour. Try hard to identify when they read out the news you抳e been following for the day卼he above three should help for you to understand more of the news厾
Continue the process everyday for two months, then review your progress厾It takes determination and social sacrifice to do this厾the question is厾how badly do you want to improve your English厾 Good luck!
It takes time to improve any skills, especially language skills. There are no easy way out apart from Practice, Practice and Practice some more. I personally believe having guts is important. I was comparing myself with my younger sister抯 progress during the years here in Britain, she抯 4 years younger than I am. There might be a factor of learning advantages when you are younger, but I believe the key lies within the fact that kids have more guts than adults厾Admittedly, her English is better than mine, especially in verbal conversations厾
Old Chinese proverb: 搕he new born calves aren抰 scared of tigers.
Don抰 want to sound like an ancient wisdom teller, but I would like to say the surroundings and willingness are important to improve one抯 skills too. There weren抰 many Chinese here 10 years ago (well, not counting the over 40s, academics sent out by the state to study a PhD or something, like my dad), as a socially hungry teenager, all activities would involve dealing with the locals. We were 揻orced敔to play with the local kids, if you don抰, you will turn out to be a weirdo like me (kidding). Nowadays, I don抰 know about anywhere else, but in London and Oxford alone, I can easily catch people speaking mandarin by taking a stroll around the lively places like Oxford Street. We are all born lazy, if we can find an easier alternative, why bother making a tremendous effort to improve ourselves? 厾I was lucky厾
The meaning of good at a language is your strong ability to understand and communicate with the others厾typically, listening, reading, writing and speaking . The understanding part is the first two categories and the latter two is for you to make the others understand. Make the following your daily routine may help:
News are broadcasted 24/7 via every possible media here in Britain. Everyday, just pick one story, and try to understand it in depth through all four ways stated above.
Reading: pick up a free copy of the Metro (or any other quality newspapers). Find an interesting news article (not the trashy gossips) like the current affair, read it, look up the dictionary for all those new words, not to memorise the new words, just to understand what it means in the context of the article. Then throw the paper away
Speaking: At the lunchtime or the breaks, speak to friends or colleagues (even strangers) of what you抳e read this morning. Forget about the grammar, the key is for the others to understand what the heck you are going on about.
Writing: Send an email to your mum (or someone wouldn抰 be annoyed) everyday in English. It doesn抰 matter if she understand it or not, am sure she will be happy to see your email everyday. Tell her what you抳e read in the paper today. When you are writing the email, pay more attention to your grammars and try to bring in the new words you抳e learned for the day.
Listening: Leave the radio on, I recommend Radio 4, proper English pronunciation and the news are on every hour. Try hard to identify when they read out the news you抳e been following for the day卼he above three should help for you to understand more of the news厾
Continue the process everyday for two months, then review your progress厾It takes determination and social sacrifice to do this厾the question is厾how badly do you want to improve your English厾 Good luck!
| QUOTE (verona @ 28 Aug 2002, 21:34) |
| 有的杂志也非常好，比如The Economist。 |
dis is just a piece of bourgeois shit!!!
I think "the economist" is brilliant. You can understand it without any specific academic background yet it also manages to explain specialised topics in an understandable way, unlike those economic articles on our reading list. To explain a complex concept in a complex way is easy. To explain a complex concept in a simple way is not a simple task.
That's the two indispensable factors for achievement in economics--intuition and mathematics(instrumental thing).
| QUOTE (Wabbit @ 30 May 2003, 14:17) |
| Just posted it on a different board... for your interest... |
I would be very thankful if one of the bm's of this forum could move it to the second class forum, for the sake of an how-to-learn-English collection.
现在国内到处充斥着美语,相应的的资料也很容易找.有什么方式/渠道可以提高英式英语的听力吗?
看来大家都没什么好招 
why not listen to BBC world service on line?
whenever you are and wherever you are, BBC world service 24 hours a day~ ~
whenever you are and wherever you are, BBC world service 24 hours a day~ ~
I'm being curious--
Can you get access to BBC from China?
What about CNN, New York times, or other western sites for news and media?
Do we have a GREAT WALL OF CHINA in cyberspace?
Can you get access to BBC from China?
What about CNN, New York times, or other western sites for news and media?
Do we have a GREAT WALL OF CHINA in cyberspace?
yup, of course! i am listening to BBC now on line and i am at home in Harbin, China! 
GREAT WALL in cyber space?
not possible~ not sure about the rest western media 
GREAT WALL in cyber space?
not possible~ not sure about the rest western media
Watch plenty of Soaps!
Aussie ones: Neighbours/Home and Away;
Brits: EastEnders/Coronation Street/Emmerdale/Brookside/Hollyoaks/Bills;
US sitcoms: Friends/Will & Grace/Ally McBeal.
PS
And of course loads of cartoons, and Parliament debates if you are really bored. (someone secretly chuckles.)
Aussie ones: Neighbours/Home and Away;
Brits: EastEnders/Coronation Street/Emmerdale/Brookside/Hollyoaks/Bills;
US sitcoms: Friends/Will & Grace/Ally McBeal.
PS
And of course loads of cartoons, and Parliament debates if you are really bored. (someone secretly chuckles.)
| QUOTE (Lcu @ 10 Apr 2002, 18:14) |
| Sometimes, I think it depends on personality. For some people, they are very shy and quiet. Even they are very reluctant to talk with others in chinese. In addition, for other people, they have "double sides". One side is they are very talktive with familiar friends/families, the other side is they are silent to strange people. In other words, they are not good at communication either. (Tell the truth, I feel I am like the latter one.. <IMG SRC="http://linkchinese.net/eu/forum/html/redface.gif">) I think this is the biggest obstruction to learn language. If you r one of them, u will go into poor circles: reluctant to talk with people in english -> ur english is not improved -> u r not confident for your english,even life and abilities -> reluctant to talk...-> english is worse>.......... finally, just two results: u r used to ur poor english with "peaceful" mind or ur feeling is very terrible coz of lonely and non-confident. Sorry, seems my points are out of topic. I just want to say: To learn english, we must be very active and lively. For some people, this is not just about learning sth. It is the progress to change personality. of coz, it's very long and not easy, particular for those people r not young again.I am still in this progress...and hope it's not very far... <IMG SRC="http://linkchinese.net/eu/forum/html/tongue.gif"> (pls don't forward this article to other boards, thanks.) [This message has been edited by Lcu (edited 10 April 2002).] |
当然因人而异
listening to Parliament debates could be really helpful.
| QUOTE (joeguo @ 6 Feb 2005, 12:18) |
| listening to Parliament debates could be really helpful. |
Helpful for what, becoming a lying politician?
| QUOTE (joeguo @ 6 Feb 2005, 12:18) |
| listening to Parliament debates could be really helpful. |
Well.... I have to say, thats really hard to understand....at least for me
I know they are talking, but I dont know what they r talking about, ha ha ha
digging...
such a bullshit
引用(Worship @ 2 Mar 2007, 21:58) 
such a bullshit
It seems that you certainly are.
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