bluebanana
7 Jul 2008, 11:49
非learner开贴有leaner 牌子(L)的车是非法的么?
就是有full license的人单独开车,车上贴有L。
昨天有人很sure的跟我说illegal,我不大相信,要是这样那些教练岂不是整天要忙于遮挡和un遮挡这些L?后来看我很怀疑,她又说至少澳大利亚是这样的,我就更怀疑了,不过毕竟人家也是后移民澳洲的,也许真的是这样?
不知道是不是违法,但倒是见过好些这样的情竞,没人管就是了
antapple
7 Jul 2008, 15:11
illegal strictly speaking unless you are a driving instructor with certificate shown.
As you are probably aware, any vehicle driven by a learner must display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates must conform to legal specifications and must be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner. Remember that a qualified driver should not drive a car if L-plates are being displayed or he is committing an offence.
source:http://www.carinsurance.com/kb/content19489.aspx
bluebanana
7 Jul 2008, 21:03
老大,差点就跑出去把牌牌摘了,可是外边月黑风高,就懒了一下。不过又看了一眼你给的链接,貌似是个美国链接啊,右上角让填ZIP code再看电话前边为“1”,再点contact me就更清楚了。
不是不相信蚂蚁果哈,主要是本身就是个保险公司的网站非官方的,还是个美国的公司,说实在的,看了这个网站和听那个很sure的朋友讲的感觉差不多,将信将疑中、、、、、、
antapple
8 Jul 2008, 11:07
那等俺找个警察问问,然后告诉你.
youhappy_lee
8 Jul 2008, 11:15
这两天看highway code里有提到,具体条款就不找给你了,是说如果不是Learner,只有Instructor才能那么开的,其他人不行的。
bluebanana
8 Jul 2008, 11:17
那俺就等着来
昨晚查到半夜也没看到官方网站的说法,只有learner必须有L牌,没说放L牌必须learner,网上说illegal的好像基本是澳大利亚的,看来那里确实限制很严,不然不会是一见到我的车就提出这个问题,我这L挂了n个月了,还上了高速,无数警车从我身边经过也没人来管我。
等有时间给dsa写信问问去
youhappy_lee
8 Jul 2008, 11:23
另外,learner是不让上高速的。
bluebanana
9 Jul 2008, 9:45
找到了!http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069868
引用
[Laws MV(DL)R reg 16 & RTA 1988 sect 87]Vehicles. Any vehicle driven by a learner MUST display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates MUST conform to legal specifications and MUST be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
看来找个东西遮起来比较好,俺那个是不干胶粘的,牢固得很,扒下来估计就不能在用了,目前为止我们还需要这个L。
应该没有违法.
我邻居那车贴L牌都有一年多了, 那是老婆学的. 但每次老公开车去, L牌都在. 否则天天摘, 贴, 不累死么
bluebanana
9 Jul 2008, 10:16
怎么就没想到查highway code来,楼上楼上的楼上多谢啦。
回楼上的,估计这个一般民不举官不究,一是警察不见得都清楚规定,另外没事他们也不会自找麻烦的,除非开车开得实在像个learner,那即使没有L也会被拦截,估计一般人都不大遵守这个规定,或者说根本不晓得这个。
好象L标志是给没正式驾照的。
考过了的新手贴的是绿色的P牌
引用(bluebanana @ 9 Jul 2008, 11:16)

怎么就没想到查highway code来,楼上楼上的楼上多谢啦。
回楼上的,估计这个一般民不举官不究,一是警察不见得都清楚规定,另外没事他们也不会自找麻烦的,除非开车开得实在像个learner,那即使没有L也会被拦截,估计一般人都不大遵守这个规定,或者说根本不晓得这个。
一个人坐车里,开个宝马,挂个L牌,警察很难不查你
antapple
9 Jul 2008, 11:46
i think you guys can take a look in here:
discussion on Yahoo!technically, it is illegal.
in practice, it is a grey area. police won't be bothered to challenge in most cases.
but if you display L and drive on your own though you have full license, you are more likely to be stopped. so why bothered? also if you are involved in accident, you could be taken advantage of. a removable or magnetic L plate costs you just 1 pound or so.
it is for sure, in Austrilia, it is illegal and you could be penalised for 60 bucks.
youhappy_lee
9 Jul 2008, 12:22
咱么还是看条款。
[Laws MV(DL)R reg 16 & RTA 1988 sect 87]Vehicles. Any vehicle driven by a learner MUST display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates MUST conform to legal specifications and MUST be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
这个跟Highway code里的是一样的,不过在整个Highway code前面有提到MUST和should的区别。MUST如果不照章办事,那么是违法的,should不照办,不会被起诉,但是可以作为罪证。
bluebanana
9 Jul 2008, 12:44
哪里有卖磁铁L的?结实么?记得俺以前的P,是打孔穿线的,但我觉得很难挂在车上就用双面胶条粘在了车上,但边沿不是紧贴的,结果过了一段时间前边的哪个就香消玉殒了。我在想要是拴线或者磁铁会不会很容易就吹掉了。
antapple
9 Jul 2008, 16:43
poundland(for 1 pound), whsmith, halfords, ebay
it is sticky enough even you drive at 70 on a dual carriage way.
megaturbo
24 Jul 2008, 20:40
The official DSA guide to DRIVING-the essential skills says,
if the vehicle is NOT being driven by a learner driver, the L-plates (D-plates) should be removed or covered.
sophie-liu
26 Jul 2008, 5:41
我可看过一个新款奔驰跑车,贴了一个红色L。
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