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yoda
Since everyone is putting in proposals to 'improve' this forum, let me add mine.

Let's get rid of 中国新闻 altogether. I see that it is currently for two purposes:

1. For copying and pasting articles from other media channels

2. For people to vent their disgust at the current board master

Benefits:

Cost savings (for having to provide less capacity to cover this forum)

Cost savings (for not having to implement all these new upgrades, proposed by nonothing and cold-look)

Removing any alleged excessive political views expressed on this forum

Drawback:

People will need to find and read the articles directly from the source
冷看
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?
Tonychef
I disagree.

I like 中国新闻, which is one of the reasons I visit this website.

I like the posts from Phil and whoever argue with him in 中国新闻.
yoda
引用(Tonychef @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:30) *
I disagree.

I like 中国新闻, which is one of the reasons I visit this website.

I like the posts from Phil and whoever argue with him in 中国新闻.


Be careful now ... ... my next proposal will be to add Tonychef as the new BM for that board - if it stays. thumbup.gif
yoda
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


How many people (not IDs) have 意见 for Phil?

nonothing
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
Cost savings (for not having to implement all these new upgrades, proposed by nonothing and cold-look)

i'll still be arguing that my proposal wouldn't cause new upgrades. rolleyes.gif

引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:37) *
How many people (not IDs) have 意见 for Phil?

see, without a fair voting system, you'd never have a convincing answer.

all in all, i kinda agree with yoda's proposal. if we can't manage it properly, at least we can get rid of it. if we look at the situation on that board, we'd see it really doesn't matter if phil is the BM or not. what really matters is what phil is doing is putting off quite a few other users. for evidence you can see me posts here:
http://lkcn.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=180048

for other guys seeing following phil's news and the arguements with others as the main reason to come to LKCN, i can tell you phil is not only doing it here, he's also doing it somewhere else. and i can assure you that it's more fun over there.
冷看
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:37) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


How many people (not IDs) have 意见 for Phil?


Good question, and I think Newlight can answer your question.
also
if you have time,
you can count how many complaint any other board master has recieved.
onthefly
引用(Tonychef @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:30) *
I disagree.

I like 中国新闻, which is one of the reasons I visit this website.

I like the posts from Phil and whoever argue with him in 中国新闻.


Second Tonychef.
冷看
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:37) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


How many people (not IDs) have 意见 for Phil?


不知道你为什么要强调一下people not IDs,
你认为这些提意见弹劾phil的id是一个人, 或者是有人用了不同的id重复发帖质疑吗?
论坛上虽然马甲泛滥,但是就这几个帖子,看说话的口吻,我倒觉得那几个帖子完全出自不同作者,newlight要不要出来澄清一下。

引用(nonothing @ 21 Jul 2008, 9:50) *



引用(冷看 @ 21 Jul 2008, 10:30) *
《谈谈倾向性导致管理中的双重标准, 说说phil的倾向性》
http://lkcn.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=180599
冷看
还有, 我proposed“只看楼主”和“忽略此人”的功能,只是一种比较方便的浏览方式,增大了用户阅读的选择性。
并非针对某人,更和是否应该取缔“中国新闻”没有任何联系。
yoda
Since you are being so helpful, could you also explain to me what Phil is doing that he could not do if he was not the BM?


引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:14) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:37) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


How many people (not IDs) have 意见 for Phil?


不知道你为什么要强调一下people not IDs,
你认为这些提意见弹劾phil的id是一个人, 或者是有人用了不同的id重复发帖质疑吗?
论坛上虽然马甲泛滥,但是就这几个帖子,看说话的口吻,我倒觉得那几个帖子完全出自不同作者,newlight要不要出来澄清一下。

引用(nonothing @ 21 Jul 2008, 9:50) *



引用(冷看 @ 21 Jul 2008, 10:30) *
《谈谈倾向性导致管理中的双重标准, 说说phil的倾向性》
http://lkcn.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=180599


zl
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 10:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


不工作就是最大的腐败.......不象在某些人的企业里,跟二奶混在一起,不工作也可以混日子的. thumbdown.gif
冷看
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:22) *
Since you are being so helpful, could you also explain to me what Phil is doing that he could not do if he was not the BM?


引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:14) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:37) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


How many people (not IDs) have 意见 for Phil?


不知道你为什么要强调一下people not IDs,
你认为这些提意见弹劾phil的id是一个人, 或者是有人用了不同的id重复发帖质疑吗?
论坛上虽然马甲泛滥,但是就这几个帖子,看说话的口吻,我倒觉得那几个帖子完全出自不同作者,newlight要不要出来澄清一下。

引用(nonothing @ 21 Jul 2008, 9:50) *



引用(冷看 @ 21 Jul 2008, 10:30) *
《谈谈倾向性导致管理中的双重标准, 说说phil的倾向性》
http://lkcn.net/bbs/index.php?showtopic=180599







嗬嗬,你的口气不是很平静哦,
我没说我helpful,有意见提出来不可以吗?就一定要helpful吗?

关于phil, 我说了,我捍卫他说话的权利,所以即使phil和我一样,只是一个平头小id, 他也一样爱发什么言论就发什么言论。
我个人只是认为一位看待问题更加公平,处理问题不带有倾向性的人作为版主更好一些。
如果你想要详细的解释,我的《谈谈XXXX》一帖中已经表达了我的观点,如果没有看到的话,可以去看一看,我就不再重复了

我知道,从前已经有好几个人提出过类似的意见,每次都是经过一段时间的讨论后不了了之,我在发文之前就猜测到我的抗议最后可能也是一样的结果,但是有些话还不是不吐不快的。
至于管理层想不想解决,想怎么解决,或者是否要采用nonothing的建议,这些都不在我的concern范围之内了。
冷看
引用(zl @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:25) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 10:29) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 11:23) *
people to vent their disgust at the current board master


不是为了发泄情绪,什么很少有人对imcover或者别的版的版主有意见呢?


不工作就是最大的腐败.......不象在某些人的企业里,跟二奶混在一起,不工作也可以混日子的. thumbdown.gif




to yoda,
see, this is why I proposed what I proposed.
yoda
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:33) *
嗬嗬,你的口气不是很平静哦,
我没说我helpful,有意见提出来不可以吗?就一定要helpful吗?


内心不平静的人,眼中的世界也不平静.

You are not only helpful, but also quite sensitive. Perhaps this is further proof that you are a f and not a m.

引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:33) *
关于phil, 我说了,我捍卫他说话的权利,所以即使phil和我一样,只是一个平头小id, 他也一样爱发什么言论就发什么言论。
我个人只是认为一位看待问题更加公平,处理问题不带有倾向性的人作为版主更好一些。


Are you implying that Phil can say what he wants only as a normal Web-Citizen, but not as BM?

冷看
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:51) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:33) *
嗬嗬,你的口气不是很平静哦,
我没说我helpful,有意见提出来不可以吗?就一定要helpful吗?


内心不平静的人,眼中的世界也不平静.

You are not only helpful, but also quite sensitive. Perhaps this is further proof that you are a f and not a m.

引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:33) *
关于phil, 我说了,我捍卫他说话的权利,所以即使phil和我一样,只是一个平头小id, 他也一样爱发什么言论就发什么言论。
我个人只是认为一位看待问题更加公平,处理问题不带有倾向性的人作为版主更好一些。


Are you implying that Phil can say what he wants only as a normal Web-Citizen, but not as BM?




i said what I said.
I can't help you if you can't understand what I said.
What I implied? sounds you are more sensitive than Female you described.
冷看
the talk between us went a bit too far,
let's get back to the topic of this thread,

It will be admin's call at the end,
so let's wait and see what newlight says about your helpful proposal.
yoda
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:55) *
引用(yoda @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:51) *
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:33) *
嗬嗬,你的口气不是很平静哦,
我没说我helpful,有意见提出来不可以吗?就一定要helpful吗?


内心不平静的人,眼中的世界也不平静.

You are not only helpful, but also quite sensitive. Perhaps this is further proof that you are a f and not a m.

引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 12:33) *
关于phil, 我说了,我捍卫他说话的权利,所以即使phil和我一样,只是一个平头小id, 他也一样爱发什么言论就发什么言论。
我个人只是认为一位看待问题更加公平,处理问题不带有倾向性的人作为版主更好一些。


Are you implying that Phil can say what he wants only as a normal Web-Citizen, but not as BM?




i said what I said.
I can't help you if you can't understand what I said.
What I implied? sounds you are more sensitive than Female you described.


icecream.gif

Trying to clarify your statement is not being sensitive ... ... I do understand your statement - but wanted to make sure that it is aligned to how you intended it to be understood. If you are not correcting my understand, I can only conclude that we are in alignment. Thank you!

yoda
引用(冷看 @ 22 Jul 2008, 13:07) *
the talk between us went a bit too far,
let's get back to the topic of this thread,

It will be admin's call at the end,
so let's wait and see what newlight says about your helpful proposal.


That is stating the obvious - it's always the admin's call at the end of the day.
星闪烁
老犹大,改革的浪潮都冲到这里来了?那么斑竹不久下岗了吗?

中国新闻版没有新意,没有也行!

yoda
引用(星闪烁 @ 22 Jul 2008, 15:47) *
老犹大,改革的浪潮都冲到这里来了?那么斑竹不久下岗了吗?

中国新闻版没有新意,没有也行!



老不老, 大不大.

thumbup.gif
Phil
Just my two cents:

这个版子不是因为我而起,也不是我一手建立,我只是接管而已。如果管理层觉得不需要我管理,甚至都不需要这个版子,我没有什么意见。
country girl
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.
alfredo
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif
malt
按发文的比例,不如叫“菲儿看中国”?
Tonychef
引用(malt @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:39) *
按发文的比例,不如叫“菲儿看中国”?

bigemo_harabe_net-163.gif
nonothing
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif
alfredo
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif
nonothing
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:37) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif

that has to be a BRAKING NEWS on LKCN. blink.gif

are all his MJs going with him? icecream.gif
alfredo
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:52) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:37) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif

that has to be a BRAKING NEWS on LKCN. blink.gif

are all his MJs going with him? icecream.gif


That is just plain greed. blink.gif
nonothing
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:57) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:52) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:37) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif

that has to be a BRAKING NEWS on LKCN. blink.gif

are all his MJs going with him? icecream.gif


That is just plain greed. blink.gif

well, yoda is still the best among all his MJs. i have to say i'll miss him badly.

can we see him somewhere else?
alfredo
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 14:10) *
well, yoda is still the best among all his MJs. i have to say i'll miss him badly.

can we see him somewhere else?


No idea.
malt
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:37) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif


regeneration?
alfredo
引用(malt @ 5 Aug 2008, 18:14) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:37) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif


regeneration?


Celebration.
country girl
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 18:16) *
引用(malt @ 5 Aug 2008, 18:14) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 13:37) *
引用(nonothing @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:59) *
引用(alfredo @ 5 Aug 2008, 12:34) *
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 9:43) *
We can not give up the whole world just because of somebody's problem.


Would you say that if there is a problem with a particular person, then just getting rid of the person would help?

If yes, then let's get rid of nonothing. laugh.gif

and yoda, too. laugh.gif


Yoda will be gone by end of the week. blink.gif


regeneration?


Celebration.

wait and see which one is right
alfredo
引用(country girl @ 5 Aug 2008, 20:45) *
wait and see which one is right


huh.gif
RACC
引用(星闪烁 @ 22 Jul 2008, 15:47) *
中国新闻版没有新意,没有也行!


嗯。。。按星闪烁的逻辑,就可以说:‘谁谁谁说话没有新意,没有也行!’

就从星闪烁自己开始吧
RACC
yoda 这个建议,坚决反对!
星闪烁
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:30) *
引用(星闪烁 @ 22 Jul 2008, 15:47) *
中国新闻版没有新意,没有也行!


嗯。。。按星闪烁的逻辑,就可以说:‘谁谁谁说话没有新意,没有也行!’

就从星闪烁自己开始吧

老兄,你要不翻出来我还真不相信我有这么个牛尾呢!

我改变主意:中国新闻办不能没有,如果没有了你想看另一面新闻得花力气找还不一定找出来!听着cancelled what I said!

你别从我开始,我都没时间来!你就开个头好了!别怪我对你太好了。tongue.gif
星闪烁
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:46) *
yoda 这个建议,坚决反对!


反对就反对,干嘛非地喊出来还非地说坚决?小心老犹大半夜三更的出现在你窗前把你吓昏了,他不会打999. laugh.gif
alfredo
引用(星闪烁 @ 9 Aug 2008, 11:30) *
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:46) *
yoda 这个建议,坚决反对!


反对就反对,干嘛非地喊出来还非地说坚决?小心老犹大半夜三更的出现在你窗前把你吓昏了,他不会打999. laugh.gif


坚决 = definitely, but not resolutely
RACC
引用(星闪烁 @ 9 Aug 2008, 11:28) *
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:30) *
引用(星闪烁 @ 22 Jul 2008, 15:47) *
中国新闻版没有新意,没有也行!


嗯。。。按星闪烁的逻辑,就可以说:‘谁谁谁说话没有新意,没有也行!’

就从星闪烁自己开始吧

老兄,你要不翻出来我还真不相信我有这么个牛尾呢!

我改变主意:中国新闻办不能没有,如果没有了你想看另一面新闻得花力气找还不一定找出来!听着cancelled what I said!

你别从我开始,我都没时间来!你就开个头好了!别怪我对你太好了。tongue.gif



引用(星闪烁 @ 9 Aug 2008, 11:30) *
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:46) *
yoda 这个建议,坚决反对!


反对就反对,干嘛非地喊出来还非地说坚决?小心老犹大半夜三更的出现在你窗前把你吓昏了,他不会打999. laugh.gif


大嫂,您爱来不来也不关我事,同样,我来不来大嫂你也别管,

还有,我爱喊坚决是我的自由,我还可以喊举手举脚坚决反对呢。

老犹大半夜三更的出现在我窗前,我一来没有半夜爬起床看窗户的习惯,二来没有一吓就昏的习惯,三来YODA这种样子的动物也不怎么吓人,大嫂的忠告留给自家的小孩吧,谢过了 laugh.gif

alfredo
引用(RACC @ 9 Aug 2008, 19:54) *
大嫂,您爱来不来也不关我事,同样,我来不来大嫂你也别管,

还有,我爱喊坚决是我的自由,我还可以喊举手举脚坚决反对呢。

老犹大半夜三更的出现在我窗前,我一来没有半夜爬起床看窗户的习惯,二来没有一吓就昏的习惯,三来YODA这种样子的动物也不怎么吓人,大嫂的忠告留给自家的小孩吧,谢过了 laugh.gif


Thought you were 大嫂的小孩.
星闪烁
引用(RACC @ 9 Aug 2008, 19:54) *
引用(星闪烁 @ 9 Aug 2008, 11:28) *
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:30) *
引用(星闪烁 @ 22 Jul 2008, 15:47) *
中国新闻版没有新意,没有也行!


嗯。。。按星闪烁的逻辑,就可以说:‘谁谁谁说话没有新意,没有也行!’

就从星闪烁自己开始吧

老兄,你要不翻出来我还真不相信我有这么个牛尾呢!

我改变主意:中国新闻办不能没有,如果没有了你想看另一面新闻得花力气找还不一定找出来!听着cancelled what I said!

你别从我开始,我都没时间来!你就开个头好了!别怪我对你太好了。tongue.gif



引用(星闪烁 @ 9 Aug 2008, 11:30) *
引用(RACC @ 8 Aug 2008, 16:46) *
yoda 这个建议,坚决反对!


反对就反对,干嘛非地喊出来还非地说坚决?小心老犹大半夜三更的出现在你窗前把你吓昏了,他不会打999. laugh.gif


大嫂,您爱来不来也不关我事,同样,我来不来大嫂你也别管,

还有,我爱喊坚决是我的自由,我还可以喊举手举脚坚决反对呢。

老犹大半夜三更的出现在我窗前,我一来没有半夜爬起床看窗户的习惯,二来没有一吓就昏的习惯,三来YODA这种样子的动物也不怎么吓人,大嫂的忠告留给自家的小孩吧,谢过了 laugh.gif

谁家孩子这么早熟 laugh.gif ?谁说管你事儿了?谁说我管你了?我反对过你自由了吗? rolleyes.gif

我不是把忠告传给“我”家孩子了么?难道还要再重新扯着耳朵在喊一嗓子不是?tongue.gif
RACC
唷,大嫂有博爱的习惯,我可没有到处认家长的习惯哪, tongue.gif

星闪烁
这个事你的习惯还是我的博爱呢?laugh.gif
引用(alfredo @ 9 Aug 2008, 21:49) *
引用(RACC @ 9 Aug 2008, 19:54) *



Thought you were 大嫂的小孩.



引用(RACC @ 11 Aug 2008, 11:25) *
唷,大嫂有博爱的习惯,我可没有到处认家长的习惯哪, tongue.gif

RACC
引用(alfredo @ 9 Aug 2008, 21:49) *
Thought you were 大嫂的小孩.



引用(星闪烁 @ 10 Aug 2008, 2:58) *
我不是把忠告传给“我”家孩子了么?难道还要再重新扯着耳朵在喊一嗓子不是?tongue.gif


瞧瞧上面,不是你俩一人一句接着的么。 rolleyes.gif
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