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yufu
BBC总是标榜自己客观,公正,自由,中立。但是我的经历告诉我,BBC的网管是我遇到的网上论坛中最虚伪的。中宣部监控的网站那没办法,反正中宣部也已经恶名远扬了。

BBC网上论坛的网管有很多技术来控制言论。比如一个很热的论题,它总是先把符合自己口味的帖子释放出来,或者是反方极端的言论(比如说DL和法第一夫人有一腿,这种的)。而反方一些合理的帖子却被搁置在一旁,过一两天大规模释放出来,这时候这个论题已经被另一个论题取代。每人会返回去看了。

最近英国运动员泼水事件,我写了几个贴,却被网管以违规删掉了。

这是其中两个贴:
1
Dear calmdownpeople:

I think you should calm down and think:

Why none of british media accused David's behavior? He threw a bottle of water to a woman officals. It is totally unacceptable whatever the reason was.

I agree with you that "BBC should make the video of this incident viewable on their Olympics website, as it doesn't seem to be available anywhere on the web." But why? they just stopped the video before the incident happened.

Don't fool ourselves, we are "man-handled" by biased media.

If none of British media dare tell us the truth, I think it is rationable that they "judge the citizens of an entire country based on the actions of one person" and the entire media.

2

It seems to me all British gentlemen here think what David had done is acceptable.

The truth is David attacked ( with a bottle of water) a woman volunteer and he didn't apologize.

Will this David guy be honoured a knightship?

这是BBC给的原因:

Dear BBC Blog contributor,

Thank you for contributing to a BBC Blog. Unfortunately we've had to remove your content below

Comments posted to BBC blogs will be removed if they are considered likely to provoke, attack or offend others; are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable; are considered to have been posted with an intention to disrupt; contain swear words (including abbreviations or alternative spellings) or other language likely to offend.

You can read the BBC Blog and messageboard House Rules in full here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/newguid...ouse_rules.html

If you can rewrite your contribution to remove the problem, we'd be happy for you to post it again.

Please note that anyone who seriously or repeatedly breaks the House Rules may have action taken against their account.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/newguid...king_rules.html

Regards,

The BBC Blog Team

我看了半天这个信,没有找到我违反了哪一条。要说也只能是我英语不好。

BBC的客观公正,难道真是婊子的牌坊?
小安妈
可以投诉试试看:http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/
onthefly
这和签证表格上那段话有异曲同工之妙啊:
Has the applicant ever, by any means or medium, expressed views that justify or glorify terrorist\violence or that may encourage others to terrorist acts or other serious criminal acts?

Yes No
yufu
引用(小安妈 @ 6 Sep 2008, 19:14) *
可以投诉试试看:http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/



不瞒你说,我已经投诉了。正在等消息。
nonothing
here is my latest comment which has broken the BBC's house rules, therefore removed:

if the BBC always delays the comments by 2-3 days through so called moderation, why bother asking people to comment at all?

it was initially published, but for some reason removed a day later citing breaking the house rules. then, i got an email from the BBC saying i posted after the messageboard was closed. funny enough, even now that messageboard is still open for comments. this is the 3rd time same thing happened. i complained the first time. their reply never came. so i've stopped complaining.

here's the messageboard, and my comment is the no.16:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/ja...ful_poetry.html

here's the email from the BBC:
引用
Messageboard Closed

From: blog James Reynolds (jamesreynoldsblog.moderators@bbc.co.uk)
Sent:11 September 2008 08:13:51
To: nonothing

Dear Messageboard user,

Thank you for contributing to a BBC messageboard. The messageboard or community that you posted to has closed.

Your message has not be posted to the site, as you submitted it, or edited it after the closure.

If you were previously a member you can still access your personal space using the link in the site navigation. From there you will be able to read all your old conversations and messages, although you will no longer be able to post new messages or edit the ones that you have previously submitted.

If you wish to contribute to another BBC messageboard or community you can see a full list of available messageboards here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/atoz.shtml

or if you wish to unleash your filmmaking, writing, artistic, or musical talents - get creative with the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/create/

Regards

The BBC Central Community Team

URL of content (now removed): http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog118/F11161138...p;post=68699608

Subject: Powerful poetry

Posting: if the BBC always delays the comments by 2-3 days through so called moderation, why bother asking people to comment at all?
yufu
看来是BBC是没治了。投诉也不理。

可笑的是BBC中文网现在正在热烈讨论 李先生 来文事件。






引用(nonothing @ 11 Sep 2008, 10:53) *
here is my latest comment which has broken the BBC's house rules, therefore removed:

if the BBC always delays the comments by 2-3 days through so called moderation, why bother asking people to comment at all?

it was initially published, but for some reason removed a day later citing breaking the house rules. then, i got an email from the BBC saying i posted after the messageboard was closed. funny enough, even now that messageboard is still open for comments. this is the 3rd time same thing happened. i complained the first time. their reply never came. so i've stopped complaining.

here's the messageboard, and my comment is the no.16:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/ja...ful_poetry.html

here's the email from the BBC:
引用
Messageboard Closed

From: blog James Reynolds (jamesreynoldsblog.moderators@bbc.co.uk)
Sent:11 September 2008 08:13:51
To: nonothing

Dear Messageboard user,

Thank you for contributing to a BBC messageboard. The messageboard or community that you posted to has closed.

Your message has not be posted to the site, as you submitted it, or edited it after the closure.

If you were previously a member you can still access your personal space using the link in the site navigation. From there you will be able to read all your old conversations and messages, although you will no longer be able to post new messages or edit the ones that you have previously submitted.

If you wish to contribute to another BBC messageboard or community you can see a full list of available messageboards here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/atoz.shtml

or if you wish to unleash your filmmaking, writing, artistic, or musical talents - get creative with the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/create/

Regards

The BBC Central Community Team

URL of content (now removed): http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog118/F11161138...p;post=68699608

Subject: Powerful poetry

Posting: if the BBC always delays the comments by 2-3 days through so called moderation, why bother asking people to comment at all?


yufu
另外这个BBC驻华记者james真是太恶心了。现在一看见他的脑袋在新闻里晃,就恶心,不管报啥新闻。





引用(nonothing @ 11 Sep 2008, 10:53) *
here is my latest comment which has broken the BBC's house rules, therefore removed:

if the BBC always delays the comments by 2-3 days through so called moderation, why bother asking people to comment at all?

it was initially published, but for some reason removed a day later citing breaking the house rules. then, i got an email from the BBC saying i posted after the messageboard was closed. funny enough, even now that messageboard is still open for comments. this is the 3rd time same thing happened. i complained the first time. their reply never came. so i've stopped complaining.

here's the messageboard, and my comment is the no.16:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/ja...ful_poetry.html

here's the email from the BBC:
引用
Messageboard Closed

From: blog James Reynolds (jamesreynoldsblog.moderators@bbc.co.uk)
Sent:11 September 2008 08:13:51
To: nonothing

Dear Messageboard user,

Thank you for contributing to a BBC messageboard. The messageboard or community that you posted to has closed.

Your message has not be posted to the site, as you submitted it, or edited it after the closure.

If you were previously a member you can still access your personal space using the link in the site navigation. From there you will be able to read all your old conversations and messages, although you will no longer be able to post new messages or edit the ones that you have previously submitted.

If you wish to contribute to another BBC messageboard or community you can see a full list of available messageboards here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/messageboards/atoz.shtml

or if you wish to unleash your filmmaking, writing, artistic, or musical talents - get creative with the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/create/

Regards

The BBC Central Community Team

URL of content (now removed): http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/blog118/F11161138...p;post=68699608

Subject: Powerful poetry

Posting: if the BBC always delays the comments by 2-3 days through so called moderation, why bother asking people to comment at all?



stephenwu
BBC,CNN,德国之声,美国之音等新闻媒体同中国的CCTV,就象一块硬币,一个是反面,一个是正面,两个一综合,就是事情的真相!西方的所谓新闻自由是不能违背西方的所谓"普世价值"的自由,中国的新闻自由是不能违背社会稳定的基础上的自由,所以两个都是有前提的,性质是一样的.

你对什么价值观认可,你可能就认可这个媒体就是新闻自由的.我以前说过,新闻自由,就象有些人想看A片,没有看之前,很想看,但看了5-6遍后就会觉得恶心.在西方,有些人想看中国的媒体,在中国有些人想看西方的媒体,结果看了后都觉得对方恶心.

在西方,你很难看到对中国美化的报道,在中国你很难看到对中国丑化的报道,这就是世界.

自由平等,应该是国家与国家之间都自由平等,自由如果能移民自由,西方同意吗?平等,发达国家愿意同不发达国家实现经济和政治平等,为什么发达国家有那么多的保护主义.
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