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xiaoyu

19 Jan 2005, 22:22

send it to abbygao

darkblue

19 Jan 2005, 23:27

QUOTE (xiaoyu @ 19 Jan 2005, 22:22)

send it to abbygao

solveig

19 Jan 2005, 23:45

ABBYGAO:

Could I have one please? thanks indeed!

wenxin_qd@yahoo.com

pppig

20 Jan 2005, 7:47

Could anyone send me a copy also? Thank you very much!
chenrui128@yahoo.com.cn

goago

20 Jan 2005, 9:30

Can I have one copy? MY email: runningxiang@126.com

Thank you very much

cymcym

20 Jan 2005, 9:36

could i have one copy please?
christina20021025@hotmail.com

扣子

20 Jan 2005, 10:46

各位，小的几天前也发了个帖子想要一份参考一下，至今未收到，能帮帮忙么？
email: kouzikouzi@gmail.com
先谢过：）

kacino

20 Jan 2005, 12:30

may I have one copy? 哪位老大行行好啊
kacino@163.com
或
casino@163.com
your help would be highly appreciated!

darkblue

20 Jan 2005, 20:35

nice long queue.

roja

21 Jan 2005, 0:22

可不可以也发给我一份谢谢了

e-mail: hquevecn@yahoo.co.uk

yoda

21 Jan 2005, 0:31

QUOTE (扣子 @ 20 Jan 2005, 10:46)

各位，小的几天前也发了个帖子想要一份参考一下，至今未收到，能帮帮忙么？
email: kouzikouzi@gmail.com
先谢过：）

solveig

21 Jan 2005, 14:05

Haven't received anything from ABBYGAO yet. Maybe s/he is busy at the moment.

If some one could send the information to me I am more than willing to pass it around.

alfredo

23 Jan 2005, 13:48

QUOTE (solveig @ 21 Jan 2005, 14:05)

Haven't received anything from ABBYGAO yet. Maybe s/he is busy at the moment.

If some one could send the information to me I am more than willing to pass it around.

don't go back on your words.

solveig

23 Jan 2005, 17:05

Many thanks to Alfredo

pppig and goago: please check your PM. Sent to you.

solveig

23 Jan 2005, 17:18

cymcym, 扣子, kacino, roja:
please check your inbox, information sent via email.

Pass it on to the others

carolmas

24 Jan 2005, 0:57

may i have a copy pls? thank you very much!

email : carolinemas@hotmail.com

babaka

24 Jan 2005, 4:24

QUOTE (quietwinner @ 15 Jan 2005, 18:35)

I want one, thank you so much
w_yichao@yahoo.com.cn

quietwinter,

can i share your copy? my email is: szetosing@hotmail.com

thanks a trillion

babaka

扣子

24 Jan 2005, 23:04

QUOTE (solveig @ 23 Jan 2005, 17:18)

cymcym, 扣子, kacino, roja:
please check your inbox, information sent via email.

Pass it on to the others

Got it:)

babaka, carolmas, pls check ur email.

roja

25 Jan 2005, 21:54

Have it, thx a lot.
Will do.

acfjoub

25 Jan 2005, 23:46

Can I have a copy pleeeeeeease!!!
email: acfjoub@hotmail.com

flamydp

26 Jan 2005, 10:50

非常感谢！
我也很想要一份COPY，请发到我的信箱：

flamy_dp@hotmail.com

多谢

darkblue

26 Jan 2005, 22:01

cymcym

28 Jan 2005, 21:07

QUOTE (扣子 @ 24 Jan 2005, 23:04)

QUOTE (solveig @ 23 Jan 2005, 17:18)

cymcym, 扣子, kacino, roja:
please check your inbox, information sent via email.

Pass it on to the others

Got it:)

babaka, carolmas, pls check ur email.

hello, i have not yet received, please send to me again.
christina20021025@hotmail.com

darkblue

29 Jan 2005, 9:55

QUOTE (cymcym @ 28 Jan 2005, 21:07)

QUOTE (扣子 @ 24 Jan 2005, 23:04)

QUOTE (solveig @ 23 Jan 2005, 17:18)

cymcym, 扣子, kacino, roja:
please check your inbox, information sent via email.

Pass it on to the others

Got it:)

babaka, carolmas, pls check ur email.

hello, i have not yet received, please send to me again.
christina20021025@hotmail.com

yuanfang

29 Jan 2005, 13:55

darkblue, 能发给我一份COPY好吗? 不胜感谢.
我现在正在找工作, 发了很多CV, 可是大多都没有回音,我感到工作好难找啊.但看到这么多朋友的经验分享,从中真是受易非浅.
我的EMAIL katexu2001@yahoo.com.cn

darkblue

29 Jan 2005, 15:46

QUOTE (yuanfang @ 29 Jan 2005, 13:55)

please ask cymcym

yuanfang

30 Jan 2005, 16:18

哪位朋友可以发给我一份COPY吗?谢谢了.
我的EMAIL, katexu2001@yahoo.com.cn

darkblue

30 Jan 2005, 16:22

QUOTE (yuanfang @ 30 Jan 2005, 16:18)

哪位朋友可以发给我一份COPY吗?谢谢了.
我的EMAIL, katexu2001@yahoo.com.cn

海冲天

1 Feb 2005, 0:23

QUOTE (carolyx @ 12 Jan 2005, 10:31)

申请工作有关的材料也给我发一份吧，这里谢过了～～～

@---->-----

邮箱：carolyu@fescomail.net

the same for me ~~can some one send me some material on how to fill in the application form, and, any job related statics plz
Thax very much
bee_25_25@hotmail.com

darkblue

3 Feb 2005, 20:29

QUOTE (海冲天 @ 1 Feb 2005, 0:23)

QUOTE (carolyx @ 12 Jan 2005, 10:31)

申请工作有关的材料也给我发一份吧，这里谢过了～～～

@---->-----

邮箱：carolyu@fescomail.net

the same for me ~~can some one send me some material on how to fill in the application form, and, any job related statics plz
Thax very much
bee_25_25@hotmail.com

skybird2005

6 Feb 2005, 15:28

could anyone send a copy to me???????????????many thx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
email: alici1213@yahoo.com

darkblue

6 Feb 2005, 16:53

QUOTE (skybird2005 @ 6 Feb 2005, 15:28)

could anyone send a copy to me???????????????many thx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
email: alici1213@yahoo.com

darkblue

6 Feb 2005, 23:06

frost

7 Feb 2005, 15:18

Glad to see so many people sharing ur experience.
I am new looking for a job, ignorant of many things:(
Hi Darkblue, can u send me a copy of the sample please?
my email address is hengzh47@gmail.com
thanks

darkblue

7 Feb 2005, 23:38

QUOTE (frost @ 7 Feb 2005, 15:18)

rolling cat

8 Feb 2005, 15:22

QUOTE (darkblue @ 29 Jan 2005, 15:46)

QUOTE (yuanfang @ 29 Jan 2005, 13:55)

please ask cymcym

可不可以发一份给我：ali_nancy@hotmail.com,多谢！

bbsr

8 Feb 2005, 16:01

珩勍扂珩砑猁珨爺:
scienstein@msn.com

郅郅, Thank you, 丐曰互升丹﹜danke sehr

whnglkd

10 Feb 2005, 18:46

我也想要一份:
whnglkd@yahoo.com.cn

Thanks

wintersong

10 Feb 2005, 23:03

Dark Blue, could I have a copy of the sample please? Thanks a lot.
My email address is gracesong99@gmail.com

darkblue

16 Feb 2005, 19:24

QUOTE (rolling cat @ 8 Feb 2005, 15:22)

QUOTE (darkblue @ 29 Jan 2005, 15:46)

QUOTE (yuanfang @ 29 Jan 2005, 13:55)

darkblue, 能发给我一份COPY好吗? 不胜感谢.
  我现在正在找工作, 发了很多CV, 可是大多都没有回音,我感到工作好难找啊.但看到这么多朋友的经验分享,从中真是受易非浅.
  我的EMAIL katexu2001@yahoo.com.cn

please ask cymcym

可不可以发一份给我：ali_nancy@hotmail.com,多谢！

sent.

please all ask rolling cat.

wintersong

16 Feb 2005, 21:30

Rolling cat,
Could you please send me one copy of the sample? thank you very much!
my email: gracesong99@gmail.com

cymcym

19 Feb 2005, 18:05

Hello, Darkblue,
I didnot receive any email from you. I want to have one copy too. What happen? Did I put the wrong email address last time?
My email: Christina20021025@hotmail.com,
thanks,
CYMCYM

unlimit strength

20 Feb 2005, 22:30

hi there,
could anyone be kindly enough send one sample to my mail box below please,

hong_h2003@hotmail.com

thanx!

unlimit strength

20 Feb 2005, 22:31

or probably i should ask CYMCYM, Please could i have one copy,
thanx!
hong_h2003@hotmail.com

kemm

20 Feb 2005, 23:43

Big thanks to littleheight and DB.
You are so generous to share these informations with us.
Really very nice of you!

PS.

Could anyone send me a copy please? Many thanks!

evacmeng@hotmail.com

fulei

21 Feb 2005, 0:17

QUOTE (littleheight @ 23 May 2004, 9:24)

个人背景:
来到英国快3年.
Undergraduate Student, BEng in Electrical and Electronic Engineering

首先, 2003 年 penultimate year 时开始找 summer internship. 一开始, 自视过高, 以为找summer internship 很容易, 尤其是Banking 的, 所以我到2003 年1月才开始填申请表. 但(我认为)已经太迟了, 应该前一年的11,12月就开始找. 而且我填表的时候也没有用心填, 开头的几份我一般1个小时就填好一份了. 那些问题我回答的也很笼统. 有人说过, 你填申请表的速度, 和他们丢你的表格进垃圾桶的速度是成正比的. 我相信. 我填goldmen sachs 的时候, 只花了30分钟, 结果没几天就被reject 了. 最后去年只收到了Citibank 的interview, 但我又没准备, interview 前一天才从德国旅游回来, 结果第一轮就拜拜了. 真是惨痛的教训.

2003 年10月开学后,再也不敢掉以轻心. 我从11月就开始填申请表. 第一轮是各大银行的. Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, etc. 但是都被reject 了. 百思不得其解, 我也不觉得自己的成绩或者经历很差, 所以拿了我的表去问学校的career service advisor. 他们的conclusion 就是我的申请表里没有show Commercial Awareness.
譬如帮公司增加营业额, 争取顾客之类的. 而大银行特别看重这些经验.
但那时我有一些心灰意冷, 觉得自己可能不是做银行的料. 所以就开始看engineering companies.

最大的麻烦就是Work Permit, 很多engineering公司都不帮我们办, 这个我也不多说了. 所以我觉得我们学校career service 的最大好处就是, 他们给出了一个会帮外国学生申请WP的公司list , 所以省了我不少事, 我就按那个 list 一个一个apply. 我一共申请了14 家, 都在Christmas holiday 结束前就apply完了. 可是到了2月头都还没有一点消息. 我害怕最后一个工作都找不到, 而且又没学上, 不能留在英国. 所以开始准备一个backup plan. 我apply 了Deutsche Bank 的summer internship in Technology division, 又apply 一个master course. Deustche Bank 的application form 我花了3天来填, 我觉得是有必要的, and made sure it was tailor made, 每个example我都有show commercial awareness.

没想到过了不久, 收到了 WS Atkins (engineering consultancy)的 first round telephone interview 和 Corus (metal manufacturer)的first round telephone interview. 那时候已是send application 后两个月的事了. 两个telephone interview 在同一天, 所以有点stressed. 准备工作就是read company websites; school career service asked for advices; prepare potential questions; prepare relevant life experiences; read my application form. 然后就叫我的朋友问问题, 我回答, 并用recording pen 录音. Recording pen 是很有用的东西, 尤其是telephone interview, 听自己的声音才知道有多差! Interview 当天把所有人都赶出家门. 一切顺利. Atkins 9 minutes, Corus 45 minutes. 我也录音了. 第二天就收到了Atkins 的 final round interview.

Deutsche Bank 也给了我first round interview. 有2 to 1 interview 和psychometric test. 准备工作:
1. company website
2. other online newspapers and BBS forum for Deustsche Bank related news and comments.(我觉得这个挺有用的)
3. free online psychometric test preparation. 这里推荐两个很好的网页.
- http://www.derby.ac.uk/careers/onlinepsychotesting.htm
- JP Morgan career website
4. 学校的career service again!
Interview 当天, 很多题问都在意料之中, 所以比较轻松. Psychometric test 33 题我做了26题. 我觉得practice online psychometric tests 是很有用的. 我practice 的时候每次都只有50, 60 percentile, JP morgan 的只能做对15 题, out of 28. 但我一直不停练, 总会提高的. 最后我Deutsche Bank 的test拿了90 percentile.

过了两天, 收到了Deutsche Bank final round assessment centre. 他们的HR 也给了我一些feedback, 她说我对Deutsche Bank 的了解已经很够了, 但是我对整个banking industry 的了解不够, 还有对别的banks的了解也不够, 她希望我在第二轮improve. 所以第二轮准备工作:
1. 从学校career service 找来一些banking jobs related 的书, 很容易找的. E.g. Doctorjob, Prospectus, eFinnancial careers, Targets. 然后开始背所有的banking terms. E.g. bond, hedge funds, futures and options, etc.
2. Search for all recent news about Deutsche Bank and other big banks.
3. 问我的前辈关于assessment centre 的情形.
Assessment centre 当天, 我倒不是很怕interview , 最怕的是group exercise. 我已经参加了两个学校organize 的 assessment centre 来练兵. 但没去过正式的. 而事实上group exercise 竞争很激烈. 我们一组有6个人, 要讨论一个新口味啤酒的开发. 一说开始, 每个人都抢着发言, 我原本想好要讲的东西一早就被人抢去讲了. 所以只好再仔细的读提供的information, 想一些别人没有讲到的点子. 重复别人的话没用. 整个30分钟的group exercise, 我只发了3次言, 但每一次都made sure 比较长, 有新意. 两个Interview中, 我在第一轮回答的不好的问题又被重复了一次.

一个星期后, 终于拿到了Desutsche Bank 的internship offer, HR的人说我在group exercise 中一开始很安静, 不太讲话, 但后来习惯环境后, Think before I speak!
之后我又去了Atkins的final round assessment centre. 也拿到了他们的permanent job offer. 过程很长, 我以后另开一篇写. 如果大家想知道interview 的问题, 我也可以写出来, 因为Atkins我有录音. Deutsche 的记不全了.

以上就是一部分心得, 希望对各位还在找的有一些帮助. 有几点我觉得很重要:
1. 学校的career service 很有用, 要好好利用.
2. 如果在英国找不到summer job, 回国找也很好, 在国内靠关系有靠关系的好处, 可以联系去一些大的银行, 公司实习, 可以不要工资, 但这个经验一定要, 如果CV上有大公司的名字, 拿到first round interview 的机会大大提高.
3. 机会难得, 一旦有了, 一定要做好非常非常充足的准备工作.
4. 不要放弃! 屡败屡战! 我也曾经几乎对自己全无信心, 但还是keep on trying! 总会有机会的!
p.s. 会帮外国学生申请WP的公司
1. ABN AMRO
2. Atkins
3. Booz Allen Hamilton
4. BP PLC
5. CIBC world markets
6. Citigoup
7. Corus
8. Credit Suisse First Boston
9. Delotte & Touche
10. Deutsche Bank
11. Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein
12. Ernst & Young
13. GKN plc
14. Marakon Associates
15. Mckingsey & Company
16. Morgan Stanley
17. OC&C strategy consultants
18. Pricewaterhousecoopers
19. P&G
20. Renishaw PLC
21. Rolls Royce
22. Shell
23. Towers Perrin
24. UBS
25. Watson Wyatt

很佩服你的经历，不过20K起步比较少，不知道做什么部门的。

kemm

21 Feb 2005, 10:38

Haven't got any reply yet..........

Could anybody do me a big favor to send me a copy, please?

I will greatly appreciate your help.

evacmeng@hotmail.com

Cheers

xiaomao215

21 Feb 2005, 16:58

Can I have a copy as well?

imlijiang@yahoo.co.uk

Thank you very much

darkblue

21 Feb 2005, 19:56

it is really something. so many people received copies recently, yet none of these people who practically begged before can not be kind enough to pass on the useful information.

those who haven't got it yet should remember to pass on to others.

unlimit strength

21 Feb 2005, 20:56

could any of you who have received copies, pass it on to us who haven't got it yet!!! please~~

hong_h2003@hotmail.com

strength

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