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littleheight
个人背景:
来到英国快3年.
Undergraduate Student, BEng in Electrical and Electronic Engineering

首先, 2003 年 penultimate year 时开始找 summer internship. 一开始, 自视过高, 以为找summer internship 很容易, 尤其是Banking 的, 所以我到2003 年1月才开始填申请表. 但(我认为)已经太迟了, 应该前一年的11,12月就开始找. 而且我填表的时候也没有用心填, 开头的几份我一般1个小时就填好一份了. 那些问题我回答的也很笼统. 有人说过, 你填申请表的速度, 和他们丢你的表格进垃圾桶的速度是成正比的. 我相信. 我填goldmen sachs 的时候, 只花了30分钟, 结果没几天就被reject 了. 最后去年只收到了Citibank 的interview, 但我又没准备, interview 前一天才从德国旅游回来, 结果第一轮就拜拜了. 真是惨痛的教训.

2003 年10月开学后,再也不敢掉以轻心. 我从11月就开始填申请表. 第一轮是各大银行的. Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, etc. 但是都被reject 了. 百思不得其解, 我也不觉得自己的成绩或者经历很差, 所以拿了我的表去问学校的career service advisor. 他们的conclusion 就是我的申请表里没有show Commercial Awareness.
譬如帮公司增加营业额, 争取顾客之类的. 而大银行特别看重这些经验.
但那时我有一些心灰意冷, 觉得自己可能不是做银行的料. 所以就开始看engineering companies.

最大的麻烦就是Work Permit, 很多engineering公司都不帮我们办, 这个我也不多说了. 所以我觉得我们学校career service 的最大好处就是, 他们给出了 一个会帮外国学生申请WP的公司list , 所以省了我不少事, 我就按那个 list 一个一个apply. 我一共申请了14 家, 都在Christmas holiday 结束前就apply完了. 可是到了2月头都还没有一点消息. 我害怕最后一个工作都找不到, 而且又没学上, 不能留在英国. 所以开始准备一个backup plan. 我apply 了Deutsche Bank 的summer internship in Technology division, 又apply 一个master course. Deustche Bank 的application form 我花了3天来填, 我觉得是有必要的, and made sure it was tailor made, 每个example我都有show commercial awareness.

没想到过了不久, 收到了 WS Atkins (engineering consultancy)的 first round telephone interview 和 Corus (metal manufacturer)的first round telephone interview. 那时候已是send application 后两个月的事了. 两个telephone interview 在同一天, 所以有点stressed. 准备工作就是read company websites; school career service asked for advices; prepare potential questions; prepare relevant life experiences; read my application form. 然后就叫我的朋友问问题, 我回答, 并用recording pen 录音. Recording pen 是很有用的东西, 尤其是telephone interview, 听自己的声音才知道有多差! Interview 当天把所有人都赶出家门. 一切顺利. Atkins 9 minutes, Corus 45 minutes. 我也录音了. 第二天就收到了Atkins 的 final round interview.

Deutsche Bank 也给了我first round interview. 有2 to 1 interview 和psychometric test. 准备工作:
1. company website
2. other online newspapers and BBS forum for Deustsche Bank related news and comments.(我觉得这个挺有用的)
3. free online psychometric test preparation. 这里推荐两个很好的网页.
- http://www.derby.ac.uk/careers/onlinepsychotesting.htm
- JP Morgan career website
4. 学校的career service again!
Interview 当天, 很多题问都在意料之中, 所以比较轻松. Psychometric test 33 题我做了26题. 我觉得practice online psychometric tests 是很有用的. 我practice 的时候每次都只有50, 60 percentile, JP morgan 的只能做对15 题, out of 28. 但我一直不停练, 总会提高的. 最后我Deutsche Bank 的test拿了90 percentile.

过了两天, 收到了Deutsche Bank final round assessment centre. 他们的HR 也给了我一些feedback, 她说我对Deutsche Bank 的了解已经很够了, 但是我对整个banking industry 的了解不够, 还有对别的banks的了解也不够, 她希望我在第二轮improve. 所以第二轮准备工作:
1. 从学校career service 找来一些banking jobs related 的书, 很容易找的. E.g. Doctorjob, Prospectus, eFinnancial careers, Targets. 然后开始背所有的banking terms. E.g. bond, hedge funds, futures and options, etc.
2. Search for all recent news about Deutsche Bank and other big banks.
3. 问我的前辈关于assessment centre 的情形.
Assessment centre 当天, 我倒不是很怕interview , 最怕的是group exercise. 我已经参加了两个学校organize 的 assessment centre 来练兵. 但没去过正式的. 而事实上group exercise 竞争很激烈. 我们一组有6个人, 要讨论一个新口味啤酒的开发. 一说开始, 每个人都抢着发言, 我原本想好要讲的东西一早就被人抢去讲了. 所以只好再仔细的读提供的information, 想一些别人没有讲到的点子. 重复别人的话没用. 整个30分钟的group exercise, 我只发了3次言, 但每一次都made sure 比较长, 有新意. 两个Interview中, 我在第一轮回答的不好的问题又被重复了一次.

一个星期后, 终于拿到了Desutsche Bank 的internship offer, HR的人说我在group exercise 中一开始很安静, 不太讲话, 但后来习惯环境后, Think before I speak!
之后我又去了Atkins的final round assessment centre. 也拿到了他们的permanent job offer. 过程很长, 我以后另开一篇写. 如果大家想知道interview 的问题, 我也可以写出来, 因为Atkins我有录音. Deutsche 的记不全了.

以上就是一部分心得, 希望对各位还在找的有一些帮助. 有几点我觉得很重要:
1. 学校的career service 很有用, 要好好利用.
2. 如果在英国找不到summer job, 回国找也很好, 在国内靠关系有靠关系的好处, 可以联系去一些大的银行, 公司实习, 可以不要工资, 但这个经验一定要, 如果CV上有大公司的名字, 拿到first round interview 的机会大大提高.
3. 机会难得, 一旦有了, 一定要做好非常非常充足的准备工作.
4. 不要放弃! 屡败屡战! 我也曾经几乎对自己全无信心, 但还是keep on trying! 总会有机会的!
p.s. 会帮外国学生申请WP的公司
1. ABN AMRO
2. Atkins
3. Booz Allen Hamilton
4. BP PLC
5. CIBC world markets
6. Citigoup
7. Corus
8. Credit Suisse First Boston
9. Delotte & Touche
10. Deutsche Bank
11. Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein
12. Ernst & Young
13. GKN plc
14. Marakon Associates
15. Mckingsey & Company
16. Morgan Stanley
17. OC&C strategy consultants
18. Pricewaterhousecoopers
19. P&G
20. Renishaw PLC
21. Rolls Royce
22. Shell
23. Towers Perrin
24. UBS
25. Watson Wyatt
darkblue
QUOTE (littleheight @ 23 May 2004, 10:24)
1. ABN AMRO
2. Atkins
3. Booz Allen Hamilton
4. BP PLC
5. CIBC world markets
6. Citigoup
7. Corus
8. Credit Suisse First Boston
9. Delotte & Touche
10. Deutsche Bank
11. Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein
12. Ernst & Young
13. GKN plc
14. Marakon Associates
15. Mckingsey & Company
16. Morgan Stanley
17. OC&C strategy consultants
18. Pricewaterhousecoopers
19. P&G
20. Renishaw PLC
21. Rolls Royce
22. Shell
23. Towers Perrin
24. UBS
25. Watson Wyatt

that's a great list. however, the work for each company can be very different. the candidate should not blindly apply for any company that does work permits, but choose one set where the skill set is applicable.

1. ABN AMRO
5. CIBC world markets
6. Citigoup
8. Credit Suisse First Boston
10. Deutsche Bank
11. Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein
16. Morgan Stanley
24. UBS

these are investment banks. there are different workstreams in investment banks. i presume you applied for their information technology section? in any case, the competition for ib jobs are fierce. for example, abn amro recently fired 50% of their equity research division. the work at ibs are very demanding. at deutsche bank, we are talking about 70-100 hours of work per week. of course they also remunerate very well.

3. Booz Allen Hamilton
14. Marakon Associates
15. Mckingsey & Company
17. OC&C strategy consultants

these are management consultancies. first of all, booz allen hamilton will not take anyone who does not speak a second european language (fluently). secondly, these four companies probably take in less than 20 people each year in total. make sure you know you are competing against 3000 applicants (all top graduates from tier 1 universities) for each company's 5 places.

9. Delotte & Touche
12. Ernst & Young
18. Pricewaterhousecoopers

these are the 3 of 4 big accountancies that do work permits. unless you want to become an accountant then don't consider them. to be honest, i think they are relatively easy to get into if your degree is maths based.


2. Atkins
4. BP PLC
7. Corus
19. P&G
21. Rolls Royce
22. Shell

these are your typical "engineering" firms. bp and shell are oil, rolls royce are engines, corus are steel, p&g are fmcg (fast moving consumer goods). the jobs for these companies are usually based in some remote location. the competition is again very tough.

overall, the companies listed are generally in the times top 100. expect a lot of competition. as little height pointed out, preparation is very important, starting with your application. a good application will get you an interview, but a good performance at an interview based on preparation and confidence will get you the job.
darkblue
Atkins Webpage
littleheight
多谢大家的恭喜! 也谢谢 Darkblue 帮我把list分类, 这样更方便大家看了. 新添几个:
25. Arup (Engineering Consultancy)
26. Mott MacDonald (Engineering, Management and Development Consultancy)
27. QinetiQ (Creation and application of Technology)
28. Shlumberger (Oilfield and IT services)

以上4个我都有apply, 不过都石沉大海了, 不过大家还是要试试的!
darkblue
QUOTE (littleheight @ 23 May 2004, 15:42)
多谢大家的恭喜! 也谢谢 Darkblue 帮我把list分类, 这样更方便大家看了. 新添几个:
25. Arup (Engineering Consultancy)
26. Mott MacDonald (Engineering, Management and Development Consultancy)
27. QinetiQ (Creation and application of Technology)
28. Shlumberger (Oilfield and IT services)

以上4个我都有apply, 不过都石沉大海了, 不过大家还是要试试的!

two notes:

1. qinetiq is not doing very well at the moment

2. schlumberger is based in germany, and has job locations in the middleeast
little kid
QUOTE
Deustche Bank 的application form 我花了3天来填, 我觉得是有必要的, and made sure it was tailor made, 每个example我都有show commercial awareness

楼主怎么show的commercail awareness?学doubel E 的有点难度吧 tongue.gif
还有,哪些institution 的summer intership要求不那么高啊

QUOTE
我从11月就开始填申请表. 第一轮是各大银行的. Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, etc. 但是都被reject 了. 百思不得其解, 我也不觉得自己的成绩或者经历很差,

偶觉得high street banks 都要求很高,自己experience不够 sad.gif 楼主都有哪些experience啊?
littleheight
我的经历如下, 应该不吓人吧. 呵呵, 这样岂不是暴露身份.
10/03-present MAGIC MATHEMATICS Travelling Circus, Flintshire, UK
What were your main duties?
- Coordinated with Operations Director to organise maths exhibitions for students at schools, museums and discovery centres. - Instructed and guided the students at exhibitions
What was your greatest contribution?
- I and two other colleagues organised a one-day maths exhibition for around 180 pupils in Virgo Fidelis Prep School, London. The exhibition was very successful such that the school was willing to pay for our visit on a regular basis.
What key skills have you developed?
-I have learnt to plan in detail and in advance. Effective communication between the school, and I would ensure the success of the event. In addition, giving presentations for pupils developed my presentation skills.

08/03-09/03 Fumon Systems International Limited, China
What were your main duties?
Internship, International Business Division  Teamwork in drafting the tender for the project to develop a “Supply Chain Management (SCM)” software  Negotiated the joint venture between Fuzhong Computer Co., Ltd. and Monash International Ltd. (India) (represented Fuzhong)  Liased with officials from Science and Technology Bureau.
What was your greatest contribution?
During the negotiation between Monash and Fuzhong, I successfully helped Fuzhong to persuade Monash to agree to set up the major research and manufacturing base in China instead of in India. I also successfully assisted to persuade Monash to invest more capital in the joint venture.
What key skills have you developed?
I have learnt negotiation skills from other colleagues. Sometimes I needed to work on weekends and had meeting till midnight, but it was understandable as commitment is essential to the business.

12/01-05/03 Prime Time Video Entertainments, London, UK
What were your main duties?
Customer service representative and the store key holder  Ensured financial performance of the store, accuracy of the cash flow  Resolved customer queries and handled problems under emergency
What was your greatest contribution?
The store system once didn’t automatically adjust its time when summer time ended. It resulted in wrong prices charged to customers. I immediately reported this to the area manager, and meanwhile handwrote down all transactions. It prevented the complaints from customers and also a loss to the store.
What key skills have you developed?
Persuading customer to rent or buy movies based on my good product knowledge made me more diplomatic. Customer-focus is critical to achieve store’s commercial goal. I also learnt to handle problems under emergency.

07/03-08/03 Ericsson Panda Communications Company Ltd., China
What were your main duties?
Internship, Research & Development Centre  Studied the detailed service path of the mobile systems  Analysed Base Station Controller platform (BSC)  Tested upgrading patches for Mobile Switching Centre (MSC)
What was your greatest contribution?
Working with different teams in the R&D centre as Ericsson wanted to integrate a few operating systems of defferent division together.
What key skills have you developed?
I appreciated more the importance of the coordination and teamwork. In this case, delay of one team affected the whole process. I also learnt to understand the complexity of project management.

Please give details of a technical project undertaken as part of your undergraduate degree (Max 100 words) *
My final year project is closely related to 3G network - to examine a new scheduling method for transmitting data packages from network operator to users such that the transmission rate is maximised. This is desired as the revenue of network operator depends on the amount of date sent to the users, maximisation of the transmission rate would maximise the revenue. The project involves the study of mathematical model of conventional and new scheduling methods; programming and designing of simulations under MATLAB environment; and also analysing of simulation results. It combines statistics, program designing, and results analysing.

有的experience美化一下,可以很impressive, 譬如我的prime time part time job, 说白了就是收银员. 另外处处都可以show commercial awareness, 譬如我在technical project 里面的红色highlight
suzaku
挺吓人的。但是感觉总结得特别好,从来没想过普通的经验可以总结出那么多东西来。。
努力学习中~

这里的符号没有礼物的,不然一定送很多礼物给楼主~
suzaku
突然想起一个问题哎:

list上的公司有没有对学校的偏好阿?比如ucl就基本可以保证进first round interview, queen mary就肯定没戏的之类的。

darkblue知道吗?。。(因为你看起来好像是guru。。。)
darkblue
QUOTE (suzaku @ 23 May 2004, 20:52)
因为你看起来好像是guru

you have never met me, how can you conclude what i appear to be? this is a good example of insincere compliment. please cut it out. i'll tell you what i know, the interpretation is up to you.

no university is a definite, even oxbridge.

however you can probably tell, - from the fact that a lot of these top firms only do three milkrounds, one in london, one in oxford, and one in london - they strongly favour the top universities.

what i can say for sure is that everyone has a chance, which ever university you graduate from. what is important is the individual application. the individual needs to use every available advantage at his/her disposal.
suzaku
.....by "appear" only how could you conclude that is a compliment? it is a good example of hotheaded conclusion.

regarding your answer, it is quite helpful. thanks for being so frank~

btw: it is a simple assumption, coming from feeling. no need to compliment anyone here.
darkblue
QUOTE (suzaku @ 23 May 2004, 22:56)
.....by "appear" only how could you conclude that is a compliment? it is a good example of hotheaded conclusion.

nice use of my paradigm there. respect!!!!

good luck with your application.
littleheight
QUOTE (suzaku @ 23 May 2004, 19:36)
挺吓人的。

其实一点都不吓人, 大家其实可以看一下这些工作经验的长短, Ericsson 和 Fumon 其实都只有一个月, 是我暑假回家找的, Fumon 我相信谁都没听过, 是个名不见经传的小公司. 重要的是怎么描述工作经历. 所以要好好利用回国的假期.
littleheight
另外添加一个挺有用的website
http://www.helpmegetaninterview.com/

里面有几乎所有大公司的 application form sample version.
需要register, 不过很快.
看了以后对fill in application form 有个底了, 很有用. 但我觉得不要从上面抄太多. application form 还是应该自己原创, 才能有personal touch.
darkblue
who said finding a job was impossible.
little kid
QUOTE
10/03-present MAGIC MATHEMATICS Travelling Circus, Flintshire, UK


impressive thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
楼主在build up ur experience时有什么体会啊?偶是说你事如何找像上面MAGIC MATHEMATICS Travelling Circus类似的工作的? blush.gif

i dont think it would meet the point if everytime we look for job, we just go for the small job like cleaner, wator/watress smile.gif
suzaku
问楼主:是不是ic或者ucl的?因为deutsche bank应该是只要oxbridge再加ic ucl lse的学生的。楼主帮忙确定一下这个消息?
fredrick
QUOTE (suzaku @ 24 May 2004, 23:34)
问楼主:是不是ic或者ucl的?因为deutsche bank应该是只要oxbridge再加ic ucl lse的学生的。楼主帮忙确定一下这个消息?

girl, you just cant get round it..
darkblue
QUOTE (suzaku @ 25 May 2004, 0:34)
问楼主:是不是ic或者ucl的?因为deutsche bank应该是只要oxbridge再加ic ucl lse的学生的。楼主帮忙确定一下这个消息?

laugh.gif

which institution are you at?
darkblue
QUOTE (suzaku @ 25 May 2004, 0:34)
问楼主:是不是ic或者ucl的?因为deutsche bank应该是只要oxbridge再加ic ucl lse的学生的。楼主帮忙确定一下这个消息?

even if it were true, the company could never have that as a policy, because of equal opportunity.

the key word is:

meritocracy
littleheight
QUOTE (little kid @ 24 May 2004, 9:15)
楼主在build up ur experience时有什么体会啊?偶是说你事如何找像上面MAGIC MATHEMATICS Travelling Circus类似的工作的? blush.gif

我有subscribe我们学校career service 办的 part time job vacancy mailing list. 基本上每星期都有几个, 有时新的,有时重复. 然后我从里面选了这个. 接下来我直接写email给organiser 问他还有没有vacancy. 他reply说有, 我就直接开工了. 没有interview, 也没有寄CV. 这种mailing list 可能几个大的job searching website 都有吧.
littleheight
QUOTE (little kid @ 24 May 2004, 9:15)
i dont think it would meet the point if everytime we look for job, we just go for the small job like cleaner, wator/watress smile.gif

这个也不一定. 我第二年拿到citibank interview 的时候, 我只有一个Work Experience , 就是Prime Time cashier.
我觉得进interview的另一个关键就是那些Questions一定要回答的很好. 举个例子, 我曾经apply "ICI Paint" 的一个Asia position (ICI 不帮忙办Work Permit). 被reject了, 我不知道为什么被reject了, 所以就打电话给他们的HR department 问原因. HR 说我的CV 很 impressive, 但是我的那些Questions没有答好. Questions section 是他们最重要的section. 譬如他们要我give an example when.....我的answer里只有end result, 没有过程,没有写我怎样想, 怎样plan. 因而他们不能从answer里看出我有这个particular skill.

希望对little kid 有帮助. rolleyes.gif
cheriange
经典。。 真要和楼主好好学习, 有时候让我填那好几篇的application form , 我也会没有耐心。
不过, 真是一份耕耘一分收获阿!
crystal03
What kind of job have you been offered?
darkblue
QUOTE (cheriange @ 25 May 2004, 18:09)
不过, 真是一份耕耘一分收获阿!

you just got that? laugh.gif
little kid
QUOTE
我有subscribe我们学校career service 办的 part time job vacancy mailing list. 基本上每星期都有几个, 有时新的,有时重复. 然后我从里面选了这个. 接下来我直接写email给organiser 问他还有没有vacancy. 他reply说有, 我就直接开工了. 没有interview, 也没有寄CV. 这种mailing list 可能几个大的job searching website 都有吧.


QUOTE
我觉得进interview的另一个关键就是那些Questions一定要回答的很好. 举个例子, 我曾经apply "ICI Paint" 的一个Asia position (ICI 不帮忙办Work Permit). 被reject了, 我不知道为什么被reject了, 所以就打电话给他们的HR department 问原因. HR 说我的CV 很 impressive, 但是我的那些Questions没有答好. Questions section 是他们最重要的section. 譬如他们要我give an example when.....我的answer里只有end result, 没有过程,没有写我怎样想, 怎样plan.


先谢过littel height的reply了 thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
偶在fill in application form 时也常常碰到这样的tricky question, 不知little height 还有没有以前答的question section的copy样本啊? blush.gif
little kid
QUOTE
这个也不一定. 我第二年拿到citibank interview 的时候, 我只有一个Work Experience , 就是Prime Time cashier


那就更是amazing 了 laugh.gif 偶的cv上列了3个 wroking experience,boss有说过一次impressive,little height是如何做到只要一个working experience就使得cv impressive 的? rolleyes.gif
littleheight
QUOTE (little kid @ 26 May 2004, 20:55)
那就更是amazing 了 laugh.gif 偶的cv上列了3个 wroking experience,boss有说过一次impressive,little height是如何做到只要一个working experience就使得cv impressive 的? rolleyes.gif

嘿嘿, 我觉得可能Questions 回答的好. 也可能是运气. 因为我第3年用同样的work experience 再次apply citigroup 却被reject了. blink.gif
darkblue
QUOTE (littleheight @ 26 May 2004, 23:48)
嘿嘿, 我觉得可能Questions 回答的好. 也可能是运气. 因为我第3年用同样的work experience 再次apply citigroup 却被reject了. blink.gif

each application is looked at for no more than a few minutes before preliminary selection.

many firms have a points system. for example:

2 pts for leadership
2 pts for innovation
2 pts for team working
2 pts for commercial awareness

they check through your answers quickly to see if your descriptions match the above. if you get more than 4 pts you are through. if not you are out.
little kid
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QUOTE (littleheight @ 26 May 2004, 23:48)
嘿嘿, 我觉得可能Questions 回答的好. 也可能是运气. 因为我第3年用同样的work experience 再次apply citigroup 却被reject了. 


each application is looked at for no more than a few minutes before preliminary selection.

many firms have a points system. for example:

2 pts for leadership
2 pts for innovation
2 pts for team working
2 pts for commercial awareness

they check through your answers quickly to see if your descriptions match the above. if you get more than 4 pts you are through. if not you are out


where u got all these information,dark blue? any good website u can possibly recommend 2 us? laugh.gif
coldwater
楼主是有心人+好心人,感谢和大家分享这些宝贵经验!十分可贵!
就算偶不找工作以后也可以给人指点一二了。 laugh.gif
littleheight
QUOTE (darkblue @ 26 May 2004, 23:37)

each application is looked at for no more than a few minutes before preliminary selection.

many firms have a points system. for example:

2 pts for leadership
2 pts for innovation
2 pts for team working
2 pts for commercial awareness

they check through your answers quickly to see if your descriptions match the above. if you get more than 4 pts you are through. if not you are out.

Maybe that is why I got into Citigoup's first round interview.
我在Q&A 里有provide examples for 3 qualities:
Leadership, Innovation and Teamworking
littleheight
QUOTE (little kid @ 27 May 2004, 10:06)
where u got all these information,dark blue? any good website u can possibly recommend 2 us? laugh.gif

http://www.helpmegetaninterview.com/

I used this website as a guideline to fill in applcation forms.
you need to register first. Once you login, go to Goldman Sachs application form sample, it will tell u the something about the point-system
BruceLee
楼主象你学习!偶今年也大二,我申请了INTERN,但是面了6-7个,其中也有DB,(其他的还有HSBC,ABN AMRO AND UBS)但是最后也都巨了,看来还是INTERVIEW的技巧问题呵呵。ANYWAY,能和你认识也是荣幸,可以告诉你的MSN吗?
darkblue
just found out someone who got internship with goldman sachs. so they are definitely taking on people. thumbup.gif
little kid
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尤其是telephone interview, 听自己的声音才知道有多差! Interview 当天把所有人都赶出家门. 一切顺利. Atkins 9 minutes, Corus 45 minutes. 我也录音了. 第二天就收到了Atkins 的 final round interview.


little height,i blush.gif s it ok 4 us 2 share ur interview questions?
littleheight
it may take quite some time. give me a few days bah! rolleyes.gif
darkblue
QUOTE (littleheight @ 30 May 2004, 23:03)
it may take quite some time. give me a few days bah! rolleyes.gif

take as long as you want. thumbup.gif
little kid
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QUOTE (littleheight @ 30 May 2004, 23:03)
it may take quite some time. give me a few days bah! 


take as long as you want. 


so kind of u, take ur time wub.gif
little kid
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To view advice and examples on each application form, click on the company name. You will need to register (and pay), to use this service, although you will get grading credits included.
To send a draft application form for grading, click the 'Send Draft Answers' button. It will be graded and sent back to you shortly.


little height, 这是偶从你recommend的website上quote下来的
只有Deutsche Bank 的smaple application form士free的,其它的像Abbey National ect 都charge sad.gif

你是怎么做到? 你觉得是只看一下Deutsche Bank 那个就够了,还是交钱在多看几个sample呢?
littleheight
oops! cool.gif 两个月前还不用交钱看的! 唉, 不好意思
darkblue
is this your own or standard answers?
littleheight
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littleheight
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darkblue
QUOTE (littleheight @ 31 May 2004, 22:50)
the sample answer from the website, 不知道这样copy and paste 会不会侵犯人家的copyright?

you could be in trouble.
little kid
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QUOTE (littleheight @ 31 May 2004, 22:50)
the sample answer from the website, 不知道这样copy and paste 会不会侵犯人家的copyright? 


you could be in trouble


godness knows how many people have done this, so as long as it doesn't state on the website, it should not be that seriours. Plus, it happens often on some websites that visitors simply cant do copy n paste as it is not permitted on that web
darkblue
i have around 50 questions which were asked at ib interviews.

here are the first 10.

1. describe when you had to analyse a complex situation, and how did you go about it?

2. why do you want to work in *********, why our company?

3. have you had to persuade someone to change their views?

4. when did you have a challenging experience? what did you learn about yourself from it?

5. when did you see a project through to completion?

6. have you had to make decisions with incomplete information? did this enhance or limit your conclusions?

7. when did you have to work with tight deadlines? how did you manage your time?

8. do you have any weaknesses?

9. have you made a decision that was not effective?

10. have you ever set yourself challenging goals?

i will add 10 every week.
little kid
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i have around 50 questions which were asked at ib interviews.

here are the first 10.

1. describe when you had to analyse a complex situation, and how did you go about it?

2. why do you want to work in *********, why our company?

3. have you had to persuade someone to change their views?

4. when did you have a challenging experience? what did you learn about yourself from it?

5. when did you see a project through to completion?

6. have you had to make decisions with incomplete information? did this enhance or limit your conclusions?

7. when did you have to work with tight deadlines? how did you manage your time?

8. do you have any weaknesses?

9. have you made a decision that was not effective?

10. have you ever set yourself challenging goals?

i will add 10 every week.


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little height, could u give us some tips about interview?
littleheight
QUOTE (little kid @ 1 Jun 2004, 13:47)
2. why do you want to work in *********, why our company?



Please describe why you have selected this division and in particular, the qualities you possess that make you suited for it.

Technology division is concerned with employing the latest technologies available to further improve the competitive edge of the firm. The fact that the team members in Technology are technically as well as business aware is another attraction, since this provides an all-round understanding of how the business is run. I work in an analytical, systematic and rational way. I have strength in maths and enjoy programming. Having taken various positions of responsibility in which teamwork, leadership, commitment and communication skills were essential; I believe to be able take the challenge offered by *** Bank.

Why do you want to work for *** Bank? (Max 100 words) *

Delivering excellent solutions to clients to promote their businesses, challenging and dynamic working environment are the main reasons I choose a career in investment banking. *** Bank is the foremost European bank, and its network spans the globe. Besides retailing sector in which a staff of ****(number) handling a total of over *(number) million individual accounts, it has ****(number) staff trading on the financial markets in investment banking sector. With best IT training programmes, *** Bank is an ideal place for a beginning investment analyst who desires to gain significant deal experiences and exposure to many different industries.


cheriange
想请教以下楼主,找工作的途径, website? agency? newspaper? any specific one?
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