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verona
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mmk1977
Congradulations!
倫敦是蠻好的, 就是房租比較貴 blush.gif
打算搬到倫敦什麼區? 可要開始找房子了.
airwjr
flywhc, many congradulations!你终于得到了你应该得到的.你确实要请Verona吃饭,太应该了.看这个帖子真是让人高兴,就象看电影大片,最后皆大欢喜.
windtalker
strongly cons! v.gif
终于坚持到了,这是最好的圣诞礼物 thumbup.gif

对了,你说的你原来出的面试题还有吗?我想看看,学习一下,如果还有copy,可否寄份给我?
windtalkersm@hotmail.com
3ks a lot rolleyes.gif
flywhc
地址是Frampton Street NW8 8NQ,地铁到Edgware road出站台还要走一会,伦敦一区西北。打电话问了几个中介,附近的房子的确很贵,1居室至少800一个月?这样一算,每月工资将近1/3贡献给英国政府(tax & NI),剩下一半交了房租,剩下还要还银行credit card,如果这样,老婆写完毕业论文赶紧去打工吧 tongue.gif

还是不太明白Relocation allowarance 是怎么给的?如果事后报销,银行帐户里的钱怕是不够一个月房租+deposit。 huh.gif
请你们俩喝广东茶也算包销范围那么,那各位的亲戚朋友都来吧 happy.gif
拿到offer letter以后问问HR。

去打工的agency辞工,结果居然不放我走,说他们Christmas缺人,尤其我这种熟练waiter,非让我再干两个周末,就算帮帮他们。biggrin.gif


最后总结一下,我这个工作多亏Verona以及disillusion等帮我改的专业CV(要是一起开个cv writting company英国那些本地公司都倒闭),发的CV一下就被HR们重视起来;
还有各位一直对我的鼓励,让我坚信网站上撒CV还是有用的,因为英国找工作就是这么找,只要按Verona的正确方法坚持努力,再加点运气,就有可能成功。正确的方法包括薪水不能要求太低,低于25K都让人看不起 biggrin.gif
运气来了,中介介绍的oxfordshire的那家公司虽然没有成功,但是为这次次interview打了很好的基础,因为工作内容相似,都是mobile software development,甚至薪水范围都相似。因此在这次interview前我很清楚自己应该准备什么,不懂的问问有经验的人(比如请教了toad OOD的问题),针对job requirements每一条充分准备,甚至我写了个小程序当场演示给他们看,用来弥补我没有某些相关经验的不足。
运气还有,这是个美国公司,公司里的人员各国都有,HR是黑人,techical lead好像是是法国人,不会歧视;公司是startup的公司估计招聘经验也不足。biggrin.gif

这次工作好像是从http://www.theitjobboard.com找到的,难得有一个不是中介的vacancy,接到电话说是某公司HR我都很意外。上一次好像是在cwjobs.co.uk上发的。几个网站基本我都用,中介也是,因此常常看到重复的工作。

thank you everyone and good luck! smile.gif
amadeus
恭喜 flywhc ,本身具有实力,又有贵人相辅,终于有志者事竟成。实在为你高兴。这个帖子有点像小说,在圣诞节前喜剧收场,堪称经典!

reach20
各位都是有工作经验的啊.
象我这种没工作经验的我觉得方法应该和你们有所不同.
不知道各位有没有介绍一些对于象我这样没什么工作经验的找工作的方法?
每天都在苦恼之中啊
reach20
by the way.

how long is your notice time/

what does "notice time" mean here?
扣子
皆大欢喜
祝贺祝贺
mmk1977
flywhc 這是一些找房的網頁, 有興趣可看看
http://www.property-go.co.uk
http://www.findaproperty.co.uk
http://www.net-lettings.co.uk/index.htm
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/rm/

也可以在這邊的 news agent 買一份 Loot, 很多出租房的廣告.
倫敦房租就是貴, 我和 LP 兩個人住在西南三區一個 Stuido也要 550 pcm (這邊 1 bedroom 好像也要 600 多). 每個月還要交 council tax + bills 和其他亂七八糟的, 加起來也實在不少. sad.gif
我公司是在 London Bridge 的, 坐地鐵大約40 mins, 我想對一個 Londoner 是可以接受吧. 但是月票一個月就要 92 鎊子 sad.gif
verona
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toad
对, 请客吃饭是不太好报relocation expense, travel 倒是可以. laugh.gif

金子开始要发光了 cool.gif
reach20
恭喜各位了.
不过我还在天天发愁呢.

大家都有工作经验,就我没什么工作经验,如何找工作呢?
用各位介绍的方法似乎不太适合我这样没有工作经验的.

有没有人没有工作经验也找到工作的,来说说经验啊
flywhc
刚收到soft copy of offer letter, 好长一大堆啊,包括handbook什么的。
relocation allowarance报销放到payroll里的
hardcopy 估计要明、后天才能寄到。
13 Dec就开始上班了。smile.gif
shane
问一句,relocation allowarance可以报你买房子的费用吗?比如律师费,land registeration fee, etc.
thrasher
QUOTE (shane @ 30 Nov 2004, 22:32)
问一句,relocation allowarance可以报你买房子的费用吗?比如律师费,land registeration fee, etc.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
慕飞
QUOTE (flywhc @ 30 Nov 2004, 15:17)
刚收到soft copy of offer letter, 好长一大堆啊,包括handbook什么的。
relocation allowarance报销放到payroll里的
hardcopy 估计要明、后天才能寄到。
13 Dec就开始上班了。smile.gif

congratulations! thumbup.gif

Could you give me some hints about how to write an attractive CV?

thanks
kentang
每隔两天我就会上英华园把这精华帖再读一次,看看有没有新跟得帖子,每次都有新得收获。。非常感谢无私分享经验的Vernoa以及各位前辈! 我现在UCL读computer science,以前在国内有两年半工作经验,明年9月毕业以后马上加入你们job hunting的庞大队伍~ readytoeat.gif
robo
QUOTE (flywhc @ 26 Nov 2004, 21:00)
今天终于接到电话,说给我offer了,应该会在下星期一接到offer letter。
薪水30K+10% bonus,她还主动问我没有达到我的期望,是否对薪水不满,我怕夜长梦多就没跟她侃价,如果我坚持估计35K也有希望。
挺高兴的,这么久终于有工作了,甚至觉得too good to be true。2周以后开始工作,我要准备搬到伦敦了 biggrin.gif


谢谢各位鼓励和帮助,尤其是verona,没有你的指点恐怕我现在都在准备回国了,我到伦敦以后请你吃饭 smile.gif

恭喜啊, 在伦敦哪里上班?
robo
QUOTE (flywhc @ 27 Nov 2004, 18:06)
地址是Frampton Street NW8 8NQ,地铁到Edgware road出站台还要走一会,伦敦一区西北。打电话问了几个中介,附近的房子的确很贵,1居室至少800一个月?这样一算,每月工资将近1/3贡献给英国政府(tax & NI),剩下一半交了房租,剩下还要还银行credit card,如果这样,老婆写完毕业论文赶紧去打工吧 tongue.gif

还是不太明白Relocation allowarance 是怎么给的?如果事后报销,银行帐户里的钱怕是不够一个月房租+deposit。 huh.gif
请你们俩喝广东茶也算包销范围那么,那各位的亲戚朋友都来吧 happy.gif
拿到offer letter以后问问HR。

去打工的agency辞工,结果居然不放我走,说他们Christmas缺人,尤其我这种熟练waiter,非让我再干两个周末,就算帮帮他们。biggrin.gif


最后总结一下,我这个工作多亏Verona以及disillusion等帮我改的专业CV(要是一起开个cv writting company英国那些本地公司都倒闭),发的CV一下就被HR们重视起来;
还有各位一直对我的鼓励,让我坚信网站上撒CV还是有用的,因为英国找工作就是这么找,只要按Verona的正确方法坚持努力,再加点运气,就有可能成功。正确的方法包括薪水不能要求太低,低于25K都让人看不起 biggrin.gif
运气来了,中介介绍的oxfordshire的那家公司虽然没有成功,但是为这次次interview打了很好的基础,因为工作内容相似,都是mobile software development,甚至薪水范围都相似。因此在这次interview前我很清楚自己应该准备什么,不懂的问问有经验的人(比如请教了toad OOD的问题),针对job requirements每一条充分准备,甚至我写了个小程序当场演示给他们看,用来弥补我没有某些相关经验的不足。
运气还有,这是个美国公司,公司里的人员各国都有,HR是黑人,techical lead好像是是法国人,不会歧视;公司是startup的公司估计招聘经验也不足。biggrin.gif

这次工作好像是从http://www.theitjobboard.com找到的,难得有一个不是中介的vacancy,接到电话说是某公司HR我都很意外。上一次好像是在cwjobs.co.uk上发的。几个网站基本我都用,中介也是,因此常常看到重复的工作。

thank you everyone and good luck! smile.gif

我原来住的房间在edgware road, 超大的房间.只要460, 到tesco走路连3分钟都用不了, 你可以去看看.
Cherubim
搬家費。。4搬家用的。。84用来買房子的。。headache.gif wounded2.gif
xp
QUOTE (robo @ 1 Dec 2004, 20:23)
我原来住的房间在edgware road, 超大的房间.只要460, 到tesco走路连3分钟都用不了, 你可以去看看.

不早点讲, 今天他们把房子合同都签了, 不过位置也非常好, 很安静的地方。你那个留给我吧, 哈哈
flywhc
慕飞: 为何不看看前面Verona写的如何写CV。

robo: 为何不早点说……是什么样的房子?什么地方?怎么那么便宜?
附近的studio也要至少800每月呢。如果还有我deposit不要了去住你那。smile.gif
刚找到一处1 bedroom flat 220 pcw 贵但是正像XP说的很不错,
实际有三间房间,厨房厕所也都不小,砍了半天价才勉强同意。
看了一天的房累死了,就决定这套了。回家一算要破产了.

Relocation Allowarance, 公司有一封信有详细规定,文件锁了我贴不上来。
对于买房者它给
1.买房的手续费,比如律师和中介费,
2 咨询费
3 注册费
4 搬家费和寄存费、保险
5 cost of transport for member of staff and their family to the new location
6 cost of preliminary trips to the new location by the member of staff and their family
7 cost of travelling form the old property to the new property at the time of the move
8 cost of necessary expenditure on replacement carpets, fixtures and fittings, the reconn/discon services(electricity, gas, water , telephone etc)
9 Legal expense or services connected with any loan raised to acquire or secure the property
10 arrangement fee and interest charges on bridging loan
11 Mortagage indemnity premiums

租房:
4, 5, 6, 7. cost of 8 if unfurnished
cost in involved in terminating one and entering into another tenancy agreement e.g. tenancy agreement fees, inventory charges, estate agent's fees etc.

这样看,买房可以节省许多钱,如果租房也就只能报销路费、搬家费和手续费 sad.gif
对了,仔细看了看,是1000pounds relocation allowarance,不知道是我听错了还是她念错了。
十字街头黑衣少年
Flywhc, just want to say congratulations!

I did not put my congratulations here randomly.

Although I am not doing IT I visited this topic from time to time. Just months ago when I saw your post I shared the same feeling with you...for me: it is desperate struggling, dark life...whatever.

I thought of giving up today, actually I have decided to give up just a couple hours before when I was sitting in a pub with a couple of friends.

I just routinely had a look of posts here and I saw your post. thumbup.gif

A happy ending of your story really puts hope into my mind. And I know I should not give up, no matter how difficult it might be.

Just a few simple words.

Congratulations again and wish you all the best in your career. smile.gif
robo
QUOTE (flywhc @ 1 Dec 2004, 23:21)
慕飞: 为何不看看前面Verona写的如何写CV。

robo: 为何不早点说……是什么样的房子?什么地方?怎么那么便宜?
附近的studio也要至少800每月呢。如果还有我deposit不要了去住你那。smile.gif
刚找到一处1 bedroom flat 220 pcw 贵但是正像XP说的很不错,
实际有三间房间,厨房厕所也都不小,砍了半天价才勉强同意。
看了一天的房累死了,就决定这套了。回家一算要破产了.

Relocation Allowarance, 公司有一封信有详细规定,文件锁了我贴不上来。
对于买房者它给
1.买房的手续费,比如律师和中介费,
2 咨询费
3 注册费
4 搬家费和寄存费、保险
5 cost of transport for member of staff and their family to the new location
6 cost of preliminary trips to the new location by the member of staff and their family
7 cost of travelling form the old property to the new property at the time of the move
8 cost of necessary expenditure on replacement carpets, fixtures and fittings, the reconn/discon services(electricity, gas, water , telephone etc)
9 Legal expense or services connected with any loan raised to acquire or secure the property
10 arrangement fee and interest charges on bridging loan
11 Mortagage indemnity premiums

租房:
4, 5, 6, 7. cost of 8 if unfurnished
cost in involved in terminating one and entering into another tenancy agreement e.g. tenancy agreement fees, inventory charges, estate agent's fees etc.

这样看,买房可以节省许多钱,如果租房也就只能报销路费、搬家费和手续费 sad.gif
对了,仔细看了看,是1000pounds relocation allowarance,不知道是我听错了还是她念错了。

最近忙, 老没上来. 我说的那个房在416A Edgware Road, W2 1ED, 有人关心的话可以去看看. 据我所知我那间房的住客到1月份就结束合同了,会搬走. 但是这个房子是中介的, 那人叫做JAMES, 一个老黑, 其实挺阴险, 要小心. 房子合同是半年一签, 屋里没家具,就张床和沙发, 里面的写字台还是我扛回去的. 基本是不带家具的. 那房子和厨房同一层, 估计原来是living room, 所以超大.

大家谁感兴趣的可以自己去问问还有没有, 电话是02083743030, Highland estates. 说起来跟这个房子没什么关系了,只是很怀念,真大,位置也爽, 估计大家也会喜欢. 只是那中介有时候挺阴, 要和他作斗争.
海冲天
各位牛人怎么都来了英国啊~~~~美国的话就不用这么郁闷了~~~
wanderer
请问Verona姐姐,您本科学什么专业呀?您进投资银行前在投资银行做过吗?您现在是搞IT还是做投资银行业务呀? 能否介绍一下怎样才能找到一份投资银行的工作或实习?请不吝赐教。
verona
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Merlin
诸位,虽然偶不是IT领域的人士,但是诸位可有任何关于如何在艺术设计领域找工作的经历,消息吗。。。
谢谢!!!
reach20
IT,说到底,好像还是感觉学IT对中国人来说比较好在英国找到工作.其他的对语言要求都很高,比较难啊.
toad
IT 的语言要求更高. C, JAVA, C++,C-sharp,VB, tcl/tk,Cobal, SQL, COM, XML, Pascal...起码自选其三吧 wink.gif
说认真的, communication skill, social skill is more important than anything else in all kinds of jobs. 并不因为对的是机器就可以把头藏在沙里. (到pay-rise的时候你就知道了.)
wanderer
请问Verona姐姐,您是在哪个学校拿的那个mathematical finance with distinction的学位?还有,您认为考一个CFA对找一份投资银行的工作会有帮助吗?我肯定没您那么神,也不可能做quant,能找个operation的工作我就烧高香了。请指点迷津。谢谢。
verona
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wanderer
请姐姐原谅,没有冒犯的意思。
verona
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verona
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yoda
QUOTE (verona @ 12 Dec 2004, 18:47)
I do not follow up on this thread anymore and won't be able to reply to individual PMs wither.

If anyone would like to raise a question with regard to "how to find a job in......", start a new thread and see if people are willing to share experience.

laugh.gif
jasminedou
VJJ, 侬好呀!!

重素欣则弄了。 Did you still remember me, who wrote you a mail nearly 2 years ago when you arranged a New Year party in London? I lived in Cheltenham then. Anyway, I'm living in London now. I finished my MA already and finished 6 months scholarship at 2s and will start to work for "the agency of the year" from next Jan. I would like to buy you a coffee or lunch sometimes at central London when you are free, cos I really really would like to make a friend in London.
verona
So finally we have a Saatchi girl. Are you with M&C Saatchi or you are based at Charlotte Street? M&C is up and coming but the old good S&S is still the best around.

Did you have a great Xmas party? What's the highlight? Did you have stretch limos red carpet champer reception all the usual stuff?

I don't say no to people who offer to buy me coffee/lunch/dinner. See PM for my contacts.

Verona blush.gif
jasminedou
QUOTE (verona @ 28 Dec 2004, 11:21)
So finally we have a Saatchi girl.  Are you with M&C Saatchi or you are based at Charlotte Street? M&C is up and coming but the old good S&S is still the best around.

Did you have a great Xmas party? What's the highlight? Did you have stretch limos red carpet champer reception all the usual stuff?

I don't say no to people who offer to buy me coffee/lunch/dinner. See PM for my contacts.

Verona blush.gif

How did you know so much about s&s? not many people knew the background of m&c and 2s. People always aksed me the question about 2s gallery, then i had to start the long story from the very begining.

HOW DID YOU KNOW THE PARTY? SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE THERE. why i didn't see you then? YOU REALLY SURPRISED ME! rolleyes.gif

ANYWAY! SEE PM FOR MY CONTACT AS WELL. tongue.gif
fredrick
QUOTE (jasminedou @ 28 Dec 2004, 11:38)
not many people knew the background of m&c and 2s, esp when the brothers fund the garllery. wink.gif In fact, i used to work for 2s in shanghai, so that's why i could join charlotte street.

HOW DID YOU KNOW THE PARTY? SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE THERE. YOU REALLY SURPRISED ME! rolleyes.gif


look look here http://lkcn.net/eubbs/index.php?showtopic=33275&st=135


ps:
hope it isnt the ubiquitous spread of ucl denim in charlotte street cool.gif
jasminedou

Oh my goddness. I just finished it! I came to say hello is nothing about that writing. I'm not that kind of Saatchi girl at all. sad.gif

en...en...en.... what shall i say??

anyway, i like your writing. Talk to you soon.
yoda
QUOTE (jasminedou @ 28 Dec 2004, 13:17)
Oh my goddness. I just finished it! I came to say hello is nothing about that writing. I'm not that kind of Saatchi girl at all. sad.gif

en...en...en.... what shall i say??

anyway, i like your writing. Talk to you soon.

Interesting. cool.gif
minnali
问一个弱弱的问题:

简历中到底要不要写生日和婚姻状况呢?
眸眸
找part-time也可以用这些网站吗? blink.gif
yinghuaman
真是落伍,以为精华帖子不会经常更新,
今天过来一看,又有新感觉。

我4个月还没找到工作,一个战友钱花光了,悲壮的离开英国。

我拿cfa续签,还要一边学cfa,一边看computer science的paper(为了申请phd)
还要天天上网找工作,看到有什么技术需要学一下,还要看看技术文档。

9月以前找不到,我也回国了

不能再在英国烧钱了
yinghuaman
我的金融一点概念没有

真是感觉读不下去

darkblue
QUOTE (yinghuaman @ 3 Feb 2005, 20:35)
我的金融一点概念没有

真是感觉读不下去

cool.gif
yinghuaman
谁想学,我转让出去,价钱好商量

人的精力是有限的
kentang
QUOTE (yinghuaman @ 3 Feb 2005, 20:34)
真是落伍,以为精华帖子不会经常更新,
今天过来一看,又有新感觉。

我4个月还没找到工作,一个战友钱花光了,悲壮的离开英国。

我拿cfa续签,还要一边学cfa,一边看computer science的paper(为了申请phd)
还要天天上网找工作,看到有什么技术需要学一下,还要看看技术文档。

9月以前找不到,我也回国了

不能再在英国烧钱了

huh.gif 不懂,难道你战友是全职找工作?为什么不一边找工作一边打工呢?即使只是麦当劳,一周工作3天也能勉强维持生活啊。。。我的意思是说钱花光了应该是借口,除非是签证到期或者自己丧失信心了才会悲壮的离开英国。 wacko.gif
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