完整版本: 求助 bmw 318i
最近想买车,看到一两1993 BMW318i, 开了98kmiles,车况依我外行来看还不错,有mot 和tax,documents齐全,some service history,还有今年二月做的hpi report.要价1200,还到1000pounds.想请问车价格是否合适,检查车时还有什么要注意,93年的车以后mot test 会不会有问题. 多谢.
it is a rubbish car I think.
Check these points:
how many services have been done?
How many mileages for each service?
How many owners?
Generally, these issues will help you to find out the quality of the car. But, I do suggest not consider it.
Check these points:
how many services have been done?
How many mileages for each service?
How many owners?
Generally, these issues will help you to find out the quality of the car. But, I do suggest not consider it.
| QUOTE (英国小虫 @ 6 Nov 2005, 12:11) |
| it is a rubbish car I think. Check these points: how many services have been done? How many mileages for each service? How many owners? Generally, these issues will help you to find out the quality of the car. But, I do suggest not consider it. |
Can you tell us reason in details please. You are an expert.
Hi Oldwillow,
i am not an expert really. But, thank you for saying so.
For BMW, MB and other prestigious cars, regular service histories are very important. Those cars would be run much longer than usual cars if they could be served regularly. So, firstly checking whether it has been serviced regularly.
Secondly, checking how many mileages between two services. A regular service is good for a car. Not one after 15000 miles for instance.
Thirdly, owners are as few as possible. However, this issue depends on the service history. If a car had a reasonable owners and with regular service histories, it would still be a good car. But, I personally don't suggest more than 5 owners, especially for those comparatively new cars less than 5 years.
i am not an expert really. But, thank you for saying so.
For BMW, MB and other prestigious cars, regular service histories are very important. Those cars would be run much longer than usual cars if they could be served regularly. So, firstly checking whether it has been serviced regularly.
Secondly, checking how many mileages between two services. A regular service is good for a car. Not one after 15000 miles for instance.
Thirdly, owners are as few as possible. However, this issue depends on the service history. If a car had a reasonable owners and with regular service histories, it would still be a good car. But, I personally don't suggest more than 5 owners, especially for those comparatively new cars less than 5 years.
This car is not a good choice to be honest.
If you buy a BMW, you pay for the performance and image. for performance, go for something with at least 2.5 litre engine - anything under this is not a proper BMW; for image, Bimmer has a perceived image as a drug dealer's car and a 12 years old simply wouldn't bring you image.
If you buy an old second hand car, you are looking for a cheap motor. The running cost for a 12 years old BMW wouldn't be cheap to repair or run.
If you simply want a BMW experience for a few months and are not planning to have it insured and taxed, then go for it, otherwise I can not find a reason for buying it. I am pretty sure you can get it for well under 1k pounds.
If you buy a BMW, you pay for the performance and image. for performance, go for something with at least 2.5 litre engine - anything under this is not a proper BMW; for image, Bimmer has a perceived image as a drug dealer's car and a 12 years old simply wouldn't bring you image.
If you buy an old second hand car, you are looking for a cheap motor. The running cost for a 12 years old BMW wouldn't be cheap to repair or run.
If you simply want a BMW experience for a few months and are not planning to have it insured and taxed, then go for it, otherwise I can not find a reason for buying it. I am pretty sure you can get it for well under 1k pounds.
| QUOTE (bitteren @ 7 Nov 2005, 19:36) |
| This car is not a good choice to be honest. If you buy a BMW, you pay for the performance and image. for performance, go for something with at least 2.5 litre engine - anything under this is not a proper BMW; for image, Bimmer has a perceived image as a drug dealer's car and a 12 years old simply wouldn't bring you image. If you buy an old second hand car, you are looking for a cheap motor. The running cost for a 12 years old BMW wouldn't be cheap to repair or run. If you simply want a BMW experience for a few months and are not planning to have it insured and taxed, then go for it, otherwise I can not find a reason for buying it. I am pretty sure you can get it for well under 1k pounds. |
分析得很精辟，想买bmw的人大部分都冲着牌子去的吧，但是如楼上所言，小排气量的bmw根本就不是proper的bmw，这也是3系列在国内卖得跟垃圾车一样的原因
如果是冲着牌子，可以告诉你在英国bmw根本就没有什么好口碑（mini cooper除外），不知道别的地方怎样，反正我周围的英国人对开bmw的人都没什么好感，在路上也没多少人给bmw让路，这也是bmw坚决不给mini改名为bmw mini的原因之一
| QUOTE (qdhy1982 @ 7 Nov 2005, 20:52) |
| 如果是冲着牌子，可以告诉你在英国bmw根本就没有什么好口碑（mini cooper除外），不知道别的地方怎样，反正我周围的英国人对开bmw的人都没什么好感，在路上也没多少人给bmw让路 |
这话从何而来啊~？？？可以详细的介绍一下吗~~~？真心请教~
| QUOTE (Sparetime @ 8 Nov 2005, 12:06) | ||
这话从何而来啊~？？？可以详细的介绍一下吗~~~？真心请教~ |
呵呵，昨天上课做case study正好是关于mini cooper的，讨论的时候班上几乎所有的人都被bmw不怎么感冒，也都说开bmw的人不怎么nice，只有一个印巴一直在叫嚣bmw好。当然这个不是绝对的，不过如果你在路上细心观察一下的话，就会发现开bmw的还真是大部分都是阿叉和黑人，middle class似乎选择vw和奥迪的多一些。
以上言论纯属个人观点，没有丝毫贬低各位开bmw的朋友，不过这在英国确实是一个有趣的现象
| QUOTE (qdhy1982 @ 7 Nov 2005, 20:52) | ||
分析得很精辟，想买bmw的人大部分都冲着牌子去的吧，但是如楼上所言，小排气量的bmw根本就不是proper的bmw，这也是3系列在国内卖得跟垃圾车一样的原因 如果是冲着牌子，可以告诉你在英国bmw根本就没有什么好口碑（mini cooper除外），不知道别的地方怎样，反正我周围的英国人对开bmw的人都没什么好感，在路上也没多少人给bmw让路，这也是bmw坚决不给mini改名为bmw mini的原因之一 |
你 are 很精辟, too.
| QUOTE (qdhy1982 @ 8 Nov 2005, 12:30) | ||||
呵呵，昨天上课做case study正好是关于mini cooper的，讨论的时候班上几乎所有的人都被bmw不怎么感冒，也都说开bmw的人不怎么nice，只有一个印巴一直在叫嚣bmw好。当然这个不是绝对的，不过如果你在路上细心观察一下的话，就会发现开bmw的还真是大部分都是阿叉和黑人，middle class似乎选择vw和奥迪的多一些。 以上言论纯属个人观点，没有丝毫贬低各位开bmw的朋友，不过这在英国确实是一个有趣的现象 |
不同意呵不同意。
The Ultimate Driving Machine= BMW.
看看BM的占有率就知道了。
| QUOTE (qdhy1982 @ 7 Nov 2005, 20:52) |
| [QUOTE=bitteren,7 Nov 2005, 19:36] 如果是冲着牌子，可以告诉你在英国bmw根本就没有什么好口碑（mini cooper除外），不知道别的地方怎样，反正我周围的英国人对开bmw的人都没什么好感，在路上也没多少人给bmw让路，这也是bmw坚决不给mini改名为bmw mini的原因之一 |
别的先不说，凭什么开BMW就得让别人让呵？
在英国开车讲的是路权，而不是你开什么级别车你就有什么级别路权吧。
反而是，开好车的，谦让的更多些。
you don't have 'right of road' when you are waiting for people to let you in from side road to main road. 
Guys here are talking about CULTRUE ISSUE behind a car - not just car itself.
Don't agree the performance comments on BMW 3 series though. Depends on which one you are driving. 320d (2.0 liter, 150bhps) is faster than a petrol engine.
Guys here are talking about CULTRUE ISSUE behind a car - not just car itself.
Don't agree the performance comments on BMW 3 series though. Depends on which one you are driving. 320d (2.0 liter, 150bhps) is faster than a petrol engine.
看过别人说过的一个笑话：开BMW的不是中餐馆老板就是drug dealer。用俗话讲，就是臭了大街了。开BMW在英国已经成了暴发户的特征之一。
不过很多国人就是冲着牌子去的，回国跟别人讲：“我在英国开宝马”，那多有面子啊。你跟人说：我在英国开一辆Aston Martin或者Lotus，对方听了准保不会有什么反响，虽然一辆Aston Martin的价钱可以买N辆宝马。
国内人听过的“好车”牌子就那么几个：宝马、奔驰、法拉利、劳斯莱斯，还不能用英文
不过很多国人就是冲着牌子去的，回国跟别人讲：“我在英国开宝马”，那多有面子啊。你跟人说：我在英国开一辆Aston Martin或者Lotus，对方听了准保不会有什么反响，虽然一辆Aston Martin的价钱可以买N辆宝马。
国内人听过的“好车”牌子就那么几个：宝马、奔驰、法拉利、劳斯莱斯，还不能用英文
| QUOTE (文客 @ 8 Nov 2005, 18:00) |
| 看过别人说过的一个笑话：开BMW的不是中餐馆老板就是drug dealer。用俗话讲，就是臭了大街了。开BMW在英国已经成了暴发户的特征之一。 不过很多国人就是冲着牌子去的，回国跟别人讲：“我在英国开宝马”，那多有面子啊。你跟人说：我在英国开一辆Aston Martin或者Lotus，对方听了准保不会有什么反响，虽然一辆Aston Martin的价钱可以买N辆宝马。 国内人听过的“好车”牌子就那么几个：宝马、奔驰、法拉利、劳斯莱斯，还不能用英文 |
我觉得开BM只是中产阶级而已，跟中餐老板扯得远了点
另外更不知道一辆ASTON MARTIN能买几辆M5?
还有，那您觉得到底开什么车才能体现咱学生的身份？？
愿闻高见。
别怪我说的难听，
有了宝马了，再来说说宝马到底怎么样。别吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸。
有了宝马了，再来说说宝马到底怎么样。别吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸。
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| 我觉得开BM只是中产阶级而已，跟中餐老板扯得远了点 |
是比较没有品位的中产阶级而已
| QUOTE |
| 还有，那您觉得到底开什么车才能体现咱学生的身份？？ |
学生还有什么“身份”可体现？体现出来的是你父母的身份。有几个学生能做到自己掏钱买好车？
| QUOTE |
| 别怪我说的难听，有了宝马了，再来说说宝马到底怎么样。别吃不到葡萄说葡萄酸。 |
我现在没钱买像样的宝马，但有钱了也不会买宝马，所以不存在什么酸葡萄的问题。我没说宝马不是好车，只是看到很多人为了追求这个牌子，不管多滥的宝马都要买，有感而发而已。
1000多镑的选择并不多，相比而言，德系车的可靠性还是不错的，至少我的经验如此。象VW，BMW等。我有过一辆MARK 3的GOLF GTI，跑了17万（英里）了，发动机还是相当的平稳有力，整车也没有任何问题。
其它的牌子买什么？日系车不喜欢，买雷诺？ROVER?标志？预算有限，选择也有限呵。
我到是觉得，如果车况不错的话，何尝不可以试一下驾驶BMW的感觉呢？E36当年也算是经典呵，更何况现在还有大把的人在开。
有兴趣可以去这个网站看看，基本上任何有关BM的问题都可以得到解答。
http://www.bmwland.co.uk
品味不品味的还真难说，我到是觉得中轻年人（25-45）开宝马比较符合本身的形象，要是开BENZ会不会有点太老的感觉？
大家都是爱车族，还是互相促进学习为妙，没必要为了一些跟自己无关的牌子争？你要是说你是奇瑞的FAN谁说奇瑞不好你跟谁急那我服，呵呵。
其它的牌子买什么？日系车不喜欢，买雷诺？ROVER?标志？预算有限，选择也有限呵。
我到是觉得，如果车况不错的话，何尝不可以试一下驾驶BMW的感觉呢？E36当年也算是经典呵，更何况现在还有大把的人在开。
有兴趣可以去这个网站看看，基本上任何有关BM的问题都可以得到解答。
http://www.bmwland.co.uk
品味不品味的还真难说，我到是觉得中轻年人（25-45）开宝马比较符合本身的形象，要是开BENZ会不会有点太老的感觉？
大家都是爱车族，还是互相促进学习为妙，没必要为了一些跟自己无关的牌子争？你要是说你是奇瑞的FAN谁说奇瑞不好你跟谁急那我服，呵呵。
BMW is indeed a nice car, just don't get a black one - I was told by a few folks that a black BMW is a drug dealer's car
I like the experience of rearwheel driving - it is a great fun to control the over steering by manipulating the throttle.
I like the experience of rearwheel driving - it is a great fun to control the over steering by manipulating the throttle.
| QUOTE (kpazs @ 9 Nov 2005, 21:08) |
| 品味不品味的还真难说，我到是觉得中轻年人（25-45）开宝马比较符合本身的形象，要是开BENZ会不会有点太老的感觉？ 看了半天就这句中听且符合我。 |
我就是开BM的E46，我不是DRUG DEALER也不是暴发户，就是一个普通的OL。
我选择BM纯粹个人爱好，而且经济能力也允许。这个身份，品位，职业都无关吧。
好好的一个车，怎么被有的人说的一无是处。
反正我开的挺好，很安全很稳当，而且等过几年就想换个CONVERTABLE的BMW。
| QUOTE (today @ 10 Nov 2005, 15:00) | ||
我就是开BM的E46，我不是DRUG DEALER也不是暴发户，就是一个普通的OL。 我选择BM纯粹个人爱好，而且经济能力也允许。这个身份，品位，职业都无关吧。 好好的一个车，怎么被有的人说的一无是处。 反正我开的挺好，很安全很稳当，而且等过几年就想换个CONVERTABLE的BMW。 |
有人支持，
我觉得BMW很含蓄呵，应该很有品才对呵，总比开大奔有品吧。
另外，我一直也觉得开宝时捷比法拉利有品，BMW和宝时捷相对来说都比较不张扬。
我也是E46，MM开的那一款呀？
开自己的车，让别人去说吧 
要不是没钱才买bmw的...
有钱谁不喜欢法拉力..
真是奇怪什么牌的车还要和人的性格联系一下..这些人真是无聊呀.
我小时候骑的是凤凰牌自行车.麻烦.分析一下我吧...
有钱谁不喜欢法拉力..
真是奇怪什么牌的车还要和人的性格联系一下..这些人真是无聊呀.
我小时候骑的是凤凰牌自行车.麻烦.分析一下我吧...
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